Double Shield Block


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If an ally of mine uses Shield Block (Shield Warden) to mitigate damage against an ally, can that ally then use his own reaction to raise shield (Shield Spell) to mitigate further damage?


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I think so, as I see nothing in the definition of triggers or reactions that would deny it.
However I think that you have to determine the order of the block because, if it is necessary, the first person's shield is probably getting wrecked.


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Hmm. I also don't see anything specifically wrong with this. Though, it is investing 2 reactions into heavily reducing the damage from one attack.

Never thought of this one. Granted haven't played around with a shield based character yet, so there is that.


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Uniting your shield with your companion's one to block a hard blow together looks... beautiful.


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I would allow it if it happened at my table. Similar thinking to Unicore... as long as there is incoming damage, the trigger is met, and it doesn't matter what else is going on.

If it's 10 incoming damage and the 1st character blocks 5 of that, there is still 5 incoming damage for the 2nd shield to block, so the trigger is still present.

Obviously if the incoming damage was 5 to begin with and the 1st character's shield totally absorbs that damage... well, no trigger anymore, so you can't block, but it's a null point by then - who cares if you can't block 0 damage...?


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jdripley wrote:

I would allow it if it happened at my table. Similar thinking to Unicore... as long as there is incoming damage, the trigger is met, and it doesn't matter what else is going on.

If it's 10 incoming damage and the 1st character blocks 5 of that, there is still 5 incoming damage for the 2nd shield to block, so the trigger is still present.

Obviously if the incoming damage was 5 to begin with and the 1st character's shield totally absorbs that damage... well, no trigger anymore, so you can't block, but it's a null point by then - who cares if you can't block 0 damage...?

This is true, though the game is generally balanced around most enemies being able to sneak some damage through an "even level" shield block in my limited experience. Double Shield block can serve to heavily reduce the sting of a big bad though.

Though with the amount of damage that shields take from attacks at most levels (from theory crafting, I don't have that much experience in practice with shields) I don't see this as being a "broken" use of shield block. Useful and potentially life saving though.

And it requires team work, which is a plus imho.


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I'd probably say that the paladin's shield takes the damage first (by interposing himself between the attack and the ally) and the ally is hunkered down behind that and her own shield.

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