Symbol of Healing and Permanency


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Lets say we have a 10th level Symbol of healing made permanent. Just to verify, once it triggers, it remains on forever right? Unless dispelled or other dismissing powers. I'm looking under symbol of death and it read:

"Symbol of death can be made permanent with a permanency spell. A permanent symbol of death that is disabled or has affected its maximum number of hit points becomes inactive for 10 minutes, but then can be triggered again as normal."


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Symbol of Healing wrote:

A creature can only be healed or harmed by the symbol once in any 24-hour period. Once triggered, the symbol remains active for 10 minutes per caster level.

Symbol of healing can be made permanent with a permanency spell by a caster of 10th level or higher for the cost of 10,000 gp.

It stays on for 10 minutes per caster level, but then shuts off until triggered again. However, a given creature can only be affected once per 24 hours.


So your counting the 10 minute rule as a form of disable. I was thinking disable more as a character using disable device on the symbol. But that is why I'm asking the question to get feed back on it.


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Seravix wrote:
So your counting the 10 minute rule as a form of disable.

I don't understand your statement. The rules state "Once triggered, the symbol remains active for 10 minutes per caster level."

If the symbol was disabled or dispelled by a rogue or dispel magic, that time would be short-circuited (or prevented from triggering in the first place).

Once the time limit is up, the symbol shuts off. If it had been made permanent, it's still there, waiting to be triggered again.


I'm just looking under symbol of death and under permanency on the side box doesn't say anything about 10 minutes a level anymore. It only says if its disabled or affected its maximum. I'm assuming that duration would be changed to permanent like other spells unless the its disabled or hit it max. I really don't have a problem with 10/level and actually prefer that, but not sure if that's how it should be or not as rules stated.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/symbol-of-death

Thanks for the comments slimgauge btw.


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Seravix wrote:
Lets say we have a 10th level Symbol of healing made permanent. Just to verify, once it triggers, it remains on forever right?

Why are you looking under Symbol of Death when your initial question is about Symbol of Healing ? In any case, symbol of healing works like symbol of death EXCEPT as specifically altered by the description of symbol of healing (specifically stating the change from a flat 10 minutes to 10 minutes per level).

D20PFSRD is a valuable resource, but the actual Paizo PRD is more authoritative.

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