Difficulty terrain and big creatures

[HumbleGamer]

I happened to wonder about it because by the time I will be able to choose divine wall as a champion feat I will be lvl 12, and large/huge/etc... creatures will be way more common than earlier levels.

So here's the question:

"What happen if a creature is only partially on a difficulty terrain?"

- does the creature need to spend extra movement to get close even if only part of it would go on a difficulty terrain ( let us not consider for a moment that the creature would probably have reach. I am just trying to understand how this works )?

- considering the lizardfolk lvl 9 feat terrain advantage, would the lizardfolk gain the benefit from the flat footed enemy status even if the enemy is only partially on the difficult terrain?

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And now a little ot.

Do you think that the champion reaction shield of reckoning is meant to also benefit from the feats related to the base champion reaction?

Lvl 1

- ranged reprisal
- unimpeded step
- weight of guild

Lvl 12

- lasting doubt
- Liberating stride

Thanks for reading

[beowulf99]

For the first part of your post so long as any part of the creatures area is on difficult terrain, they suffer the effects of difficult terrain.

Say you have a Huge creature (3x3 5ft squares) who is entering a 2x3 area of difficult terrain. So long as any part of that huge creatures base would be "entering" a square of difficult terrain during a move action, they would suffer the additional move speed penalty. Only once the last square of them would be leaving that area of difficult terrain would they no longer take the penalty.

So far as the Lizardfolk feat goes, so long as even one square of a huge creatures base is in a square of difficult terrain, they would be flat footed to that lizard folk, as them being in difficult terrain is true.

For the off topic bonus questions:
Note: The Champions reaction you get as a part of it would obviously benefit.
Feats in order:
1. No, because SoR is not an attack, so couldn't be done with a bow.
2. No, because you are not moving as part of SoR
3. No, because you are not using Glimpse of Redemption.
4. No, because you are not using Glimpse of Redemption.
5. No, because you are not using Liberating Step.

[HumbleGamer]

Thanks for the difficulty terrain answers.

I don't pretty understand the answers towards shield of reckoning.

1- imagine you are adiacent to an ally but 10 feet from an enemy.

You use the Shield Block on your ally, then your retributive strike on an enemy. If the enemy is not in your reach but 5 feet from your reach, you can Step.

It is not about using a ranged weapon, but about stepping to being close to it to also land the Strike.

2- it is the ally the one who moves, not you. If they are subject to the champion Liberating stride, they step. And if the champion has the feat, they can also step on difficulty terrain.

3,4,5 - the feat it self say you use both your champion reaction and the shield block. You are using the shield of reckoning reaction which combines 2 reaction in one as flourish attack.

Quote:

When you shield your ally against an attack, you call upon your power to protect your ally further. You use the Shield Block reaction to prevent damage to an ally and also use your champion’s reaction against the foe that attacked your ally.

So it is the game which says you use it, but not you directly.

Something like

Feat - everytime you use xxx then...
SoR - you use Shield Block and you also use your champ reaction.

Because you use the champion reaction, you use any feat related to it ( as the feat say ).

Like you could use the fighter reflexive feat when you perform a shield of reckoning ( imagine to be close to a Drake who breath ).

- shield block to hold the dragon's breath.
- Champion reaction to give player resistance and the extra reaction effect depends his cause.

Or else because a champion who specialize into shields will have 5 feats less ( and this would be meaningless if we consider that a champion has no lvl 1 feats apart from the reaction one and the domain ).

[theservantsllcleanitup]

I think the question is whether the champion's reaction (that is, retributive strike, liberating step, or glimpse of redemption) that you get as a part of shield of reckoning is modified by feats that modify them, or if it is just the base version of whichever you have.

To which the answer is that yes, you use the same champion's reaction you would use at any other time.

[HumbleGamer]

theservantsllcleanitup wrote:

I think the question is whether the champion's reaction (that is, retributive strike, liberating step, or glimpse of redemption) that you get as a part of shield of reckoning is modified by feats that modify them, or if it is just the base version of whichever you have.

To which the answer is that yes, you use the same champion's reaction you would use at any other time.

That is the point.

What concerned me is that instead of creating a shield of reckoning feat which allows you to use both, they decided to make it a reaction which uses both, probably to semplify ( and I understand they did it because of the 1x round base reaction).

I am probabky oberthinking.