Hi,
My character is an Alchemist and at 6th level I took the Promethean Disciple Disciple (counts as Craft Construct, can use my Ranks in Alchemy for Caster Level, use Alchemy for all skill checks).
What are some Constructs I which could be good which could be made with Caster Level 6(and then for 7-8-9th levels)? Most of them require a lot higher CL.
And then Constructs tend to be weak for the level you can create them at. Do you know any which could be useful for an Alchemist?
I'm already building myself a Poppet(flying and with extra carrying capacity). I intend to use it to carry around stuff and act as an assistant but also use it in battle to carry and feed potions/infusions to the party.
Should I make it Tiny or Small? I ration that if it is Tiny it would be easier for it to dart around between enemies, but this doesn't seem to be reflected in the rules.
When I hit level 7 I'll probably make a Iron Cobra so it could poison enemies with the poison I make.
Is there a way to bump up my ranks in Alchemy? I know there are some books for making Golems which among other things raise your Caster Level. What if I use those what is the earliest level I could create a Golem - one which would be useful?
ugh - This was supposed to be in the Advice section. I don't see a way to move it or to delete, or to contact the admins.
Can somebody move this this thread for me?
Caster levels aren't requirements.
IF something explicitly says "caster must be x level" you can ignore that by adding 5 to the dc
Nah. I've read other threads and checked the rules on this. I'm pretty sure you can't waive away the Caster Level restriction by increasing the DC by 10.
Crafting and Bypassing Requirements: What crafting requirements can you bypass by adding +5 to the DC of your Spellcraft check?
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As presented on page 549 of the Core Rulebook, there are no limitations other than (1) you have to have the item creation feat, and (2) you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting their spell prerequisites. So racial requirements, specific spell requirements, math requirements (such as "caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus"), and so on, are all subject to the +5 DC rule.
So, when caster level actually is a requirement, you can add +5 to bypass it.
But for the majority of magic items, caster level isn't even usually a requirement. It just tells you other useful things about the item, like how hard it is to dispel and how high the base DC is for crafting the item.
Of the constructs I have looked at, the Rune Guardian, the Graven Guardian, and the Waxwork Creature look to be interesting.
Go for the small poppet rather than the tiny one. It has more hit points, and might survive longer. For flight, I think it is better for ferrying the party before the party has flight all around. The easier darting is accounted for in the stat difference between the tiny and the small poppet.
While the Iron Cobra looks good on paper, it is a wimpy creature that can take a long time to deliver poison. It is of no use during combat. Poison in general is also pretty weak. Your opponents poison saves scale quicker than your poison save DC. As to getting more ranks in alchemy, the only way is to add ranks. Bumping the skill level, however, is much easier. The spell Tears to Wine has a scaling bonus. The spell Crafter's Fortune [and also Beloved Of The Forge] give you a significant boost. The Master Alchemist feat also is a big boost.
Lastly, check out Williamoak's Construct Guide for a lot of ideas. Also read the discussion for stuff not in the guide.
/cevah
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Lastly, check out Williamoak's Construct Guide for a lot of ideas. Also read the discussion for stuff not in the guide.
Oops. Wrong link above. Here is the correct one:
discussionOn one of my posts in the thread, I list quite a number of buffs for skills to make the high DCs needed.
/cevah
"Minimum Caster Level requirements" refers to having the minimum Caster Level to cast a spell, ie you must have a Caster Level of 5 to cast a fireball spell or to create a scroll of it. If a construct requires a specific spell to craft it, you must meet the Caster Level for that spell or have someone who does supply the spell, or add +5 DC to ignore the spell (though you still have to have the minimum Caster Level to cast it)
That is how the two (perceived conflicting) requirements resolve the issue in question.
A tattoo guardian is something to look forward to. Not so much for its offensive capabilities as for the bodyguard ability. CL 9.
A cutlass spider is decent for offense. CL 7-8.
A waxwork creature is about the best you'll get at CL 6. It's also hard to actually destroy for most enemies. A tiger is 6 HD (so CL 6 required) though it'd lose pounce.
5: Get a friend to help with the construction. You don't necessarily have to provide the spell yourself. Cooperative crafting is only necessary to reduce the time, the spell(s) can be provided without it.
"Minimum Caster Level requirements" refers to having the minimum Caster Level to cast a spell, ie you must have a Caster Level of 5 to cast a fireball spell or to create a scroll of it. If a construct requires a specific spell to craft it, you must meet the Caster Level for that spell or have someone who does supply the spell, or add +5 DC to ignore the spell (though you still have to have the minimum Caster Level to cast it)
That is how the two (perceived conflicting) requirements resolve the issue in question.
additional verbiage:
“Caster Level: Some constructs, especially the more powerful ones, require the creator to be of a certain caster level in order to craft them. Unlike some other crafting requirements, this requirement must be met in order to craft the construct, and cannot be ignored simply by increasing the DC of the skill check to craft the construct by 5.”
It isn’t very ambiguous on this point.
Except that text seems to just be unofficial d20pfsrd fluff. What official source did it come from?