(PFS) Armor and Tree form / Water Form


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Grand Lodge

Tree form: Tree Form (Sp): As a standard action, you can assume the form of a Large living or dead tree or shrub, as tree shape. At 9th level, you can assume the form of a Small or Medium plant creature, as plant shape I. At 11th level, you can assume the form of a Large plant creature, as plant shape II. At 13th level, you can assume the form of a Huge plant creature, as plant shape III. You can use this ability once per day, but the duration is 1 hour/level. You must be at least 3rd level to select this revelation.

Water Form (Su): As a standard action, you can assume the form of a Small water elemental, as elemental body I. At 9th level, you can assume the form of a Medium water elemental, as elemental body II. At 11th level, you can assume the form of a Large water elemental, as elemental body III. At 13th level, you can assume the form of a Huge water elemental, as elemental body IV. You can use this ability once per day, but the duration is 1 hour/level. You must be at least 7th level to select this revelation.

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My question is the following if you remove armor / shield then transform using either ability into a medium plant (humanoid shape) or water elementer could you wear again your magical (medium size) armor shield?

This is for PFS. (so need ruling or FAQ or other legal proofs)

We all assume that magical armor fits a size sized creature Humanoids type (1/2 orc, dwarf, elves, fey etc..)
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Polymorph sub school:

When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, all of your gear melds into your body. Items that provide constant bonuses and do not need to be activated continue to function while melded in this way (with the exception of armor and shield bonuses, which cease to function).

Sczarni

Funny thing about that. Plants and Elementals don't seem to have item slots.

Or, at least it's not defined anywhere. This question comes up every now and then when a Treesinger is looking to give her Plant Companion an AoMF, or a Wizard has an Elemental Familiar.

Grand Lodge

probably,

still looking for an answer tough :)


Has it ever been ironed out whether they can cast spells? It's pretty obvious you need Natural Spell to cast as a druid wild shaped into a tiger.

But there has been some argument about the elemental (and some other forms).

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You can't wear armor made for humanoid on non-humanoids (Core rules.)

You can cast with Natural Spell while using Wild Shape to take the form of an elemental or plant, etc.

Sczarni

Algar Lysandris wrote:
Nefreet wrote:

Funny thing about that. Plants and Elementals don't seem to have item slots.

Or, at least it's not defined anywhere. This question comes up every now and then when a Treesinger is looking to give her Plant Companion an AoMF, or a Wizard has an Elemental Familiar.

probably, still looking for an answer though :)

As it stands now, for PFS, since Plants and Elementals don't have any defined item slots, you would be unable to wear armor as a Plant or Elemental.

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