Are the Pathfinder Tales considered canon


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I'm just wondering if the Pathfinder Tales are meant to exist within the same chain of events as the Adventure Paths. I'm wondering this just in general, but specifically I'm trying to figure out if the events of Return of the Runelords are tied to the Tales. The Gluttonous Tome is involved in the AP and I'm wondering if there's a canon tie in with the events of Dave Gross' Lord of Runes.

Scarab Sages

There is an adventure path tie in to the Worldwound Gambit, as well as Reign of Stars and City of Fallen Sky.

Based on those alone, I'd be inclined to say that yes, they are mostly canon.

Sovereign Court

The novels largely stand alone.

There might be some little Easter Eggs but it is largely separate.

Even though Radovan and Varian went to the Worldwound around the time of Wrath of the Righteous, the players won't meet the characters or see what they have done.

That said, the Tales are a great way of understanding the setting for a bunch of adventures.

Silver Crusade

GeraintElberion wrote:

The novels largely stand alone.

There might be some little Easter Eggs but it is largely separate.

Even though Radovan and Varian went to the Worldwound around the time of Wrath of the Righteous, the players won't meet the characters or see what they have done.

That said, the Tales are a great way of understanding the setting for a bunch of adventures.

While they may not see them the The King of Chaos novel is explicitly linked to the WotR AP.

Spoiler:
They retrieve an Artifact the Crusade uses during the AP.

This is the only instance of the Novels and AP line converging openly to my knowledge.


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Not so! Iron Gods ties into Reign of Stars.

Silver Crusade

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captain yesterday wrote:
Not so! Iron Gods ties into Reign of Stars.

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that. Good novel.

Scarab Sages

The cast of Worldwound Gambit show up in Wrath of the Righteous.

I'd have to go over it again, but I feel like Lord of Runes incorporates a few different adventure path acknowledgements as well.

It's not overt, but there is definitely cross over between the books and the adventure paths.


Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Not so! Iron Gods ties into Reign of Stars.
Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that. Good novel.

It happens to be one of the few I've read (though my wife has nearly every novel). :-)

Silver Crusade

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Belabras wrote:

The cast of Worldwound Gambit show up in Wrath of the Righteous.

I'd have to go over it again, but I feel like Lord of Runes incorporates a few different adventure path acknowledgements as well.

It's not overt, but there is definitely cross over between the books and the adventure paths.

Oh cool.

Not strictly AP related but Reign of Stars also mentions a bunch of other Tales characters as well. And The Redemption Engine has a cameo with Valeros, Seoni, and Merisiel.

Silver Crusade

captain yesterday wrote:
Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Not so! Iron Gods ties into Reign of Stars.
Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that. Good novel.
It happens to be one of the few I've read (though my wife has nearly every novel). :-)

Nice.

Sczarni

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Varion also writes a letter the PCs get in one of the season 5(?) PFS scenarios.

Over at Pathfinder wiki we do treat fiction as canon, and are currently formally discussing how they fit in our Tiering structure, whether fiction is a tier 2 or tier 3 source.

Scarab Sages Organized Play Developer

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From a developer perspective, my understanding is that the Pathfinder Tales lines are considered canon, to the point that we very carefully avoid "stepping on the toes" of the facts, stories, and characters introduced in the novels. It's also my understanding that if there's any inconsistency between what the novels indicate and what a hardcover, player's companion, campaign setting, or adventure path entry states, the game product has precedence (which I think would put it somewhere in the Tier 3 territory, though I'm not the one to make such a call).

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