exalted of the society


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Can a life oracle take exalted of the society trait or is it limited to cleric only?

Exalted of the Society (Cleric, Pathfinder Society):
The vaults of the Grand Lodge in Absalom contain many
secrets of the divine powers of the gods, and you have
studied your god extensively. You may channel energy 1
additional time per day.

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Oarwind wrote:

Can a life oracle take exalted of the society trait or is it limited to cleric only?

Exalted of the Society (Cleric, Pathfinder Society):
The vaults of the Grand Lodge in Absalom contain many
secrets of the divine powers of the gods, and you have
studied your god extensively. You may channel energy 1
additional time per day.

From the same page of the book that comes from:

Quote:

New Traits

For more information about traits, see paizo.com/traits. If
a trait is restricted to a particular race, faction, or character
class
, this is listed in parentheses after the trait name.

Bolding mine, but as the trait states, you would need to be a member of the Pathfinder Society AND a cleric to take this trait.


Fair Enough, the only reason I ask this was because it looks like the faction guide came out before the APG came out and no additional base classes existed.

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Oarwind wrote:
Fair Enough, the only reason I ask this was because it looks like the faction guide came out before the APG came out and no additional base classes existed.

True, but unfortunately, that's one of the problems with abilities being limited in this way. If they would have just left off the cleric part as being redundant at the point in time of writing the book, it would allow it to be used by other classes that gain that ability at a later time. Some of the traits are only limited by faction, and would have been a better choice for most IMO to make the traits more versatile.

For a home game, I'd expand it I'm sure, but unfortunately in this case, RAW is pretty straight forward on it being limited to a class.

Grand Lodge 1/5

Oracles aren't necessarily Divine servants.

They do cast Divine spells but can be anti-theists. You can be a Rhadoumi Oracle and you can hate a god for cursing you. Would that make you a Divine Servant, capable of accessing religious texts to study 'your god?' I would say not.

Oracles also don't serve a god, from what I remember. While their powers are divine, they are not divinely granted. A cleric asks for said powers while an oracle simply has them and doesn't give a fig about what a god may think. I'd say a Paladin is more likely to be a candidate for this trait, than an Oracle.

But that's just my 2cp.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

That's the common misconception in my area, too, especially revolving around the Defender of the Society trait (Fighter, +1 trait bonus to AC when wearing Medium or Heavy armor). I've heard people claim the trait was reprinted in another book since, without the class restriction, but I'm skeptical.

Shadow Lodge

Nefreet wrote:
I've heard people claim the trait was reprinted in another book since, without the class restriction, but I'm skeptical.

If they can provide that book, that's great. But if the only version they can provide is from the Faction Guide, then they have to use the version printed there, complete with prerequisites.

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Nefreet wrote:
That's the common misconception in my area, too, especially revolving around the Defender of the Society trait (Fighter, +1 trait bonus to AC when wearing Medium or Heavy armor). I've heard people claim the trait was reprinted in another book since, without the class restriction, but I'm skeptical.

They were reprinted in the Player's Guide for Shattered Star, which is not PFS legal. In the reprint, they did not have prerequisites, which is where the confusion lies.

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

(this is my sarcasm font) Oh, excellent.

Something to watch out for. Good to know.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

That seems like a PFS oversight?

Anyone know if it's intentional that these were kept illegal?

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Avatar-1 wrote:

That seems like a PFS oversight?

Anyone know if it's intentional that these were kept illegal?

This was a decision that predates my hiring, but I believe that most (if not all) campaign traits are not allowed. I don't believe this is an oversight. In a way we already have approximately 40 of our own campaign traits already: faction traits.

I know of a recent Chronicle sheet that opened up a few campaign traits.

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John Compton wrote:
This was a decision that predates my hiring, but I believe that most (if not all) campaign traits are not allowed.

Would it be possible to take a second look at the Player's Guide (Shattered Star specifically, others generally)? I think there are a few bits that could be useful in PFS. We did use to have a precedent of getting a few items (spells, items, etc...). Plus they are free, which is a boon for players who don't have a lot of money to spend on extra items.

For example, off the top of my head the Winter Witch archetype and PRC are both covered in the Reign of Winter Player's Guide I think. Or the hex nail is quite neat as well.

Just saying. There are some AP player's guides that have legal items, but haven't seen any recently (besides the ROTRL Anniv one). Some things have become "un-banned" in the past, so maybe these player guides are worth a second look?

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Nice. I'll reference this thread the next time I encounter someone that believes otherwise.

Dark Archive 4/5

Equally if they want the Defender of the society trait they could just take fighter at level 1, as there is not a build that exists that is not improved by a level of fighter :)

Grand Lodge 4/5

John Compton wrote:
Avatar-1 wrote:

That seems like a PFS oversight?

Anyone know if it's intentional that these were kept illegal?

This was a decision that predates my hiring, but I believe that most (if not all) campaign traits are not allowed. I don't believe this is an oversight. In a way we already have approximately 40 of our own campaign traits already: faction traits.

I know of a recent Chronicle sheet that opened up a few campaign traits.

John,

Main issue is that they are, other than removing some class restrictions that don't make sense, identical to the traits of the same name that are legal.

Which runs right into the PFS rule that only the most recent version of an item is the legal version, but the most recent version is not in a legal source to get them from.

This is just about as bad as not being able to know which version, if not neither or both, of the Dueling weapon enhancement is legal.

Dueling from APG
Dueling from the PSFG
Dueling from UE (which is pretty much just a reprint of the APG version)

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kinevon wrote:

Dueling from APG

Dueling from the PSFG
Dueling from UE (which is pretty much just a reprint of the APG version)

Dueling from the APG/UE and Dueling from the PSFG are 2 different Weapon Special Abilities, mistakenly given the same name.

Source

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They could better fix the issue by just making traits for the newer classes to round out the set.

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