Dawn of Flame Levels?


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I know there isn't much information to go off of at all yet, but I remember seeing the slides announcing this AP at Paizocon. Do we know what levels the AP is going to get to? As much as I understand why they did 1-13 for Dead Suns, and as much as I'm excited to try out Aeon and Signal, I'm really hoping it will run to 18 like Pathfinder APs.


Nope. They said at the banquet and the AP panel that it would be a 6-part Level 1-12 AP just like Dead Suns. I'm pretty sure principal writing is already done, or in the final stages, so I don't expect that to change.

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My hope is that with the experimental 3-part formula, they do a committed 13-18 level 3 part AP in a few cycles as a sequel (spiritual or genuine) to Dawn of Flame or Dead Suns.

That would be AWESOME.


Yeah, my hope would be that the one after DoF would be a 3 Part 13-20 AP that can be a sequel to DS, DoF, or SoS. But my understanding is that it's likely to be another 6-part 1-12 like DS/DoF. They're likely already working on the AP after DoF and they're holding off on another 3-parter until after they have data on how well AAT and SoS sell.

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pithica42 wrote:
Yeah, my hope would be that the one after DoF would be a 3 Part 13-20 AP that can be a sequel to DS, DoF, or SoS. But my understanding is that it's likely to be another 6-part 1-12 like DS/DoF. They're likely already working on the AP after DoF and they're holding off on another 3-parter until after they have data on how well AAT and SoS sell.

we can always wait. we'll see how it goes.

dead suns is a really good AP so far from my perspective as a player (starting book 4 next month).

the fact that they are willing to do the 3-parters at all is enormously encouraging


I'm keeping my fingers crossed for several over the long haul -- my hope is that eventually, we'll have multiple choices of APs of varying lengths to take characters from 1-20 with. Granted, it's going to take a while to get there, even if higher level APs still sell reasonably well.


If high level modules are good sellers, they might do a high level 3-shot AP.

Otherwise...

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Tyrnis wrote:
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for several over the long haul -- my hope is that eventually, we'll have multiple choices of APs of varying lengths to take characters from 1-20 with. Granted, it's going to take a while to get there, even if higher level APs still sell reasonably well.

eh...

dunno how i feel about the straight 1-20 AP v. the possibility of 3 APs which take characters from 1-20.

I mean... you can mix and match! Don't have to keep the same plotline going. You finish Dead Suns? Like your characters? Pick up the high level AP!

With AtAT and whatever the second 3-parter is, you can shift locations, plots, characters, whatever along a much more manageable amount of adventure.

A problem with APs is that it can be hard to finish them because of their sheer scale (an even bigger problem with Pathfinder, where the books are just enormous). So... cut it in half. It's still great.

And then send the same characters on a second set of adventures, and then a third. A good DM can spread out NPCs and villains, and mix and match...


That's what I was keeping my fingers crossed for, and pretty much exactly for those reasons :-)

When I said several, I just meant several higher level APs to choose between. I don't particularly want a 1-20 AP...realistically, I'm never going to run it. The three part APs are really more my ideal length -- completing Dead Suns with my group will be the longest continuous story I've ever managed to run or play with the same group. We're halfway there now, so I think we've got a good shot at pulling it off, but I don't think completing 6 part APs will ever be our norm. It's much more common for us to do a story arc, then switch to a different game or different set of characters for a little while to give whoever's currently GMing a break.


I like the idea of mixing and matching AP's to fit, but we're going to go two years without an AP that takes you beyond level 12? I understand that higher level content doesn't sell as well as lower level stuff, but I know that my group was very disappointed that it capped at 12. We're fine with the cap not being all the way at 20, but we were hoping for something more around the 16-18 level.


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I suspect the way to get a 12-18 AP is to buy lots and lots of Signal of Screams. They're going to be looking at the sales of that very experimental path to determine the plan going forward I'm sure.


Commodore_RB wrote:
I suspect the way to get a 12-18 AP is to buy lots and lots of Signal of Screams. They're going to be looking at the sales of that very experimental path to determine the plan going forward I'm sure.

I don't even buy APs and I'm going to get that. It sounds friggin' amazing!


If this is another low level AP it will be time to unsubscribe as support for Starfinder will not be meeting any of my interests

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JohnHawkins wrote:
If this is another low level AP it will be time to unsubscribe as support for Starfinder will not be meeting any of my interests

it will be a 'full' ap like Dead Suns, taking the characters from levels 1 - 14.

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