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I played last night in a PF2 pre-playtest with theorycrafted rules, and my character was a Paladin of Shelyn.
So, the group went to play bowling in the secret room inside the Core Goblin tavern.
At my very first throw I rolled a 20, and I was so excited that my critical success had fell all the pins! But my GM said that I was going to fall, because I striked first.
We spent the rest of the evening arguing. I said that I didn't have any control on the result of the dice, but he was adamant. I think he didn't like my character because she is not LG, and he only allowed it because I had brought pizza.
What do you think? I don't want to fall, the bowling alley is rather hard!
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Well after that I licked my fingers and touched all the slices, so no one wanted to eat that pizza anymore (except one who critically failed his perception check).
Maybe that fixed the problem.
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I tink your GM don't understand the difference between «strike first» and being the first ready to take an action.
I wasn't the first to take an action: the Rouge was. He scored a 9, and didn't want to spend another action to try and get a spare because he says that spares are not viable, and uses a rapper instead. You know, with the new rules that's the only way he can multiclass into Bard.
I was the first to make a strike, though.
This is the best thread.
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Did your paladin compose a victory dance to honor Shelyn?
Wow did I need to reread that first post like twice. Nice.
Did your paladin sing a victory song...?
'Cause I'm already gone
And I'm feelin' strong
I will sing this vict'ry song, woo, hoo, hoo, woo, hoo, hoo
Yeah, you probably fell, but ~6 feet of falling damage isn't very high. I recommend just dealing with it. I recommend lay on hands.
What...?
What...?
We're busy making fun of the constant 'did this Paladin fall from grace and lose their class powers' threads you see on here.
That's what.
At my very first throw I rolled a 20, and I was so excited that my critical success had fell all the pins! But my GM said that I was going to fall, because I striked first.
I had something similar happen when we played baseball with the hobgoblins in the next part and I was the first to swing and misses the ball...
I May Fall
RWBY is love.
On topic you shouldn't fall because the first to act was the pin that clearly used power word kill and failed (mainly because it cannot utter the command), so you are perefectly justified.
But what happens if the paladin gets tripped? He'll lose his powers when he falls! :P
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It depends on their alignment...
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soo umm is that in the playtest code that a paladin cant strike first?
if so that is bork and needs to go
It's in the playtest deity 'code' for Shelyn. We know Clerics use those prohibitions, but not necessarily in a 'Paladin falls' way, and whether Paladins are under the same restrictions is unknown.
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Shelyn's Edicts and Anathema are drawn largely from her PF1 paladin code, which emphasizes pacifism and redemption. I'd guess all the divine classes interact with their deities anathema in some way.
For a more standard paladin code, check out Iomedae's paladin code from PF1. Chances are much of the paladin code will form the basis for her cleric edicts.
Ditch the GM
Fitch the GM (as in throw a bird at him! (double wait triple parentheses!(Not the bird but a bird!)))
Ditch the GM
No, gutter him!
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It's in the playtest deity 'code' for Shelyn. We know Clerics use those prohibitions, but not necessarily in a 'Paladin falls' way, and whether Paladins are under the same restrictions is unknown.soo umm is that in the playtest code that a paladin cant strike first?
if so that is bork and needs to go
Hey past me! How were things? Good? That's nice.
Anyway, we now know that these restrictions do apply, in a Paladin falls way, to Paladins of Shelyn (though not other Paladins). Though they do specify that they can strike first to protect an innocent.
Just to keep this bit up to date info-wise.
It's in the playtest deity 'code' for Shelyn. We know Clerics use those prohibitions, but not necessarily in a 'Paladin falls' way, and whether Paladins are under the same restrictions is unknown.soo umm is that in the playtest code that a paladin cant strike first?
if so that is bork and needs to go
Hey past me! How were things? Good? That's nice.
Anyway, we now know that these restrictions do apply, in a Paladin falls way, to Paladins of Shelyn (though not other Paladins). Though they do specify that they can strike first to protect an innocent.
Just to keep this bit up to date info-wise.
Do we know that? I thought the jury was still out on where the Anathema lie in the Code. By how I was reading it it's totally legal for a Paladin of Shelyn to commit an Evil Act if it's to save a work of art.
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Do we know that? I thought the jury was still out on where the Anathema lie in the Code. By how I was reading it it's totally legal for a Paladin of Shelyn to commit an Evil Act if it's to save a work of art.
We know that specifically because it's said in the Blog. Whether it's true due to the Code Priorities or the wording of that Anathema being more specific than the version we saw previously we don't know, but do a word search for 'Shelyn' in the Paladin Blog and you get the following sentence:
In addition, you must follow the paladin's code below. Deities often add additional strictures for their own paladins (for instance, Shelyn's paladins never attack first except to protect an innocent, and they choose and perfect an art).
Emphasis added.
Ah, forgot about that part.