Soldier Ability Stack Question


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Okay so hypothetically, I have a 14th lvl Vesk Soldier with the primary speciality of Armor Storm. This of course allows him to use an unarmed strike as if he has a Battle Glove attached as long as he is in Heavy or Powered armor called Hammer Fist.

At 9th level with the Armor Storm Speciality he get Smash Through. This allows him to do a bull rush at +4 to hit and if he connects, he gets a melee attack, which he can also use his Hammer Fist for. Also at 9th level he chooses Blitz has his secondary speciality.

At 14th Level he receives the Charged Attack ability from the Blitz speciality. This allows him to turn any attack in which he charges an opponent (With none of the penalties to charge) into a bull rush and attack him up to 2 times. (Both would be -4 attack).

So question is, if I use charge attack, hit with the bull rush, do I get 2 or three attacks with my hammer fist?

Or one attack with my hammer fist and 2 with another melee weapon if equipped?

Or, in sadness, they do not stack. (Which with how the rules are written, doesn't seem the case it me.)

Just a heads up this isn't hypothetical. My Vesk Soldier is 14th level right now in our campaign and this build does stupid damage while also keeping a 2 handed hammer in my main hand that I can use for reach if needed. Right now we are going with the "if the charged Bullrush hits, I get 2 attacks at -4". Just wondering if anyone has some clarification.

~Rags


the Charged Attack gives you either 1: a melee attack, 2: a bull rush, or 3: 2 melee attacks instead of 1 (both at -4).

Smash through requires you to make a bull rush combat maneuver, and you get the attack only if you push the enemy back at least 10 feet.

You can't do a bull rush AND the 2 attack option from Charged Attack... it's either or. So either you bull rush (+4) and get the bonus attack if you push the enemy back more than 10 feet, OR you just do 2 attacks at the end of your charge (OR just 1 attack at the end of your charge)

Exo-Guardians

You are reading it a little wrong.

Charge Attack lets you make charge without penalties. You can then choose to either make an attack at the end or a bull rush. If you have Soldier's Onslaught, you can make two attacks at the end, or a bull rush.

If you have Charge Attack and Smash Through and Soldier's Onslaught, you can make a charge without penalties and choose to either make two attacks OR make a bull rush at +4, after which you can make a Hammer Fist attack *if* you pushed them back 10 feet or more.

You can't make two attacks and then a Hammer Fist, because the Hammer Fist is tied to making the bull rush at the end of the charge, and the two attacks are tied to making attacks at the end of the charge.

It is still pretty awesome. If you take Improved Bull Rush as a feat, you are basically bull rushing at no penalty and probably getting that sweet Hammer Fist in there.

Bonus points if you are a Nuar or other race with a charge bonus.

Side note, if you dip into Solarian for Stellar Rush (which also has a charge/bull rush synergy), it stacks with Smash Through, but not with Charge Attack, so someday I hope to see an Armor Storm Solarian who smashes into people for fire damage and then Hammer Fists them.


Ahh I see I did read that wrong. Thanks for the correction!

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