Trailer: Ant Man and the Wasp


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Exactly, DQ! Only the worthy can wield Mjolnir.

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Utterly tangential and nothing to do with Ant-Man and the Wasp, but... speaking of movies and Mjollnir...

You Know He was the Worthiest of Us All. I strongly recommend seeing "Won't You Be My Neighbor" and dare you not to cry.

Back to Ant-Man, I wonder if Cassie could wield MoJo. That would be awesome.


Well based SOLELY on who has been worthy to wield Mjolnir in other comics/continuities...it's entirely PLAUSIBLE. But I'd much rather we stick with someone like say... Spider-man maybe.


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I'm worthy I just need to find the hammer if anyone knows where its at I would appreciate it.


Saw the movie today. It was mostly entertaining, but I left the theater mildly disappointed: not only didn't the collective protagonists come out ahead, they suffered a net loss. (I'm including the first after-film scene.)

Spoiler:

Same number of persons trapped in the quantum realm that they started with; at least three dead from Thanos' finger snap -- no data on Bill, Ghost, Cassie, her mom & stepdad, or the X-Con Security staff; Ghost evidently won't be getting the "healing particles" that I gather she will need on a continuing basis; assuming she survived Thanos Cassie will be missing her dad for a while and have no idea what's up, etc.

Basically the whole end situation was a downer, even though...

Spoiler:

Like many, I presume that Infinity War Pt. 2 will see the return of everyone who disappeared as a result of Thanos' finger snap, so none of those deaths matter.

And after today, I wonder if the mention of time vortices within the quantum realm will tie into Dr. Strange's [presumed] handling of the Time Stone in Infinity War, releasing Scott for IW2.

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Saw the movie last night with my brother. It was very entertaining. Decent story. Lots of humor. The cast was wonderful.

My only real complaint is...

Spoiler:
The lack of a decent villain.

While Ghost was sufficiently menacing (at times) and capable, she came across as more sympathetic than villainous. Despite her desperate circumstances, she listened to Foster when he told her not to go after Cassie as leverage. So, not really a villain in my book. If they decided to use her elsewhere in the future, I think she would make a great mercenary-type henchman - not good, not bad, just in it for the money.

Sonny Birch, while motivated by that most classic of villain reasons, pure greed, was insufficiently menacing. Maybe it's because they needed one villain to be funny, so as to maintain the more lighthearted tone of the movie.

Either way, I prefer my villains truly villainous.

The Baba Yaga stuff was f%$$ing hilarious.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
I'm worthy I just need to find the hammer if anyone knows where its at I would appreciate it.

While I might not be worthy, I'm still going to be ahead of you Vid if Mjolnir lands on/in this Realm.


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Already called dibs on Mjolnir decades ago you guys. You'll know when I get it from the strange storm movements everywhere. I vow as the new God of Thunder to smite. A lot.


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Lathiira,

As long as the smiting is done in the name of justice and freedom.

Also I still think I should get it. I keep getting Thor when I do those Facebook quizzes about who you are in the MCU/Marvel Comics.


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I also get the Odinson for the FB quizzes. Right down to hero for my birth month, which is July. So for my birthday...I want Mjolnir :)

I will of course make sure all my smitings are in the name of justice and freedom. Some of it will be for social justice, but it'll be justice nonetheless.


Look whoever can pick it up. totes can have it. We will just have to see whose most worthy.

I just wanted to mention I feel that beard size is going to play a factor in worthiness.


*holds Mjolnir out, casually*


*grasps the haft of Mjolnir*

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Remember when this thread was about the Antman and the Wasp movie?
Ah, those sure were good times ...


Hey at least we're still in the MCU! ;)

Also it's not like Ant-man could lift Mjolnir...


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Marc Radle wrote:

Remember when this thread was about the Antman and the Wasp movie?

Ah, those sure were good times ...

I will not be herded, not even by the Vice President of the Kobolds.


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I am pretty sure if I touched mjolnir, I would spontaneously combust, I am so unworthy.qq

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I saw a theory that the mysterious black market client who wanted the Pym tech was....

Spoiler:
Norman Osborn

I'd be down with that.


Joel,

Sure because it's not like Osborn ever made anything that WORKED. Well I mean when he's not hopped up on Goblin juice...

And yes Freehold, you are extremely unworthy...but not combustible.


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Hey if you want more ant-man and wasp just talk more about ant-man and wasp I feel like that is the logical thing to do I'm sure others will join in.


Indeed. Apologies for the derail. I'm still waiting to see it, hopefully next weekend!


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Spoiler:

Mjolnir does NOT show up in Ant Man and The Wasp.


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Oh, hey, there's a thread for this...

So.

I was pretty "meh" on Ant-Man, and it was mostly the prospect of seeing Hope stomp face that made me go see this one.

I certainly prefer it to its predecessor, but it's probably more of a Doctor Strange than a Black Panther for me- having seen it once, I doubt I'll ever need to see it again.

Spoiler:
The good:
-Hope. When they had her there. Since the whole prior movie was one long "why the hell isn't Hope on this job in at least a backup capacity?" gag, it was gratifying to see Wasp kicking butt.

-Ghost. In a way. I appreciate that they gave her compelling motives for what she was doing, the actress did a solid job with the role, and her status as a sort of anti-villain (to reference dear old TV Tropes.... ugh) made for a different dynamic than Marvel usually gives us. And serious props for having a powerset wholly distinct from that of the heroes, 'cause Marvel's cinematic track record there is downright lousy. It's basically her, Vulture, and a couple of demigod types.

-No Yellowjacket. Yes, he's dead, but I mean there was no effort to make a villain as lame as ol' Lemonhead come off as genuinely menacing.

-Cassie. When I don't utterly loathe a child character a s load-bearing element in an action movie, something great has been achieved. When i actually enjoy the kid's scenes and pay attention to them? Well done.

-The older characters Did Stuff and it mattered. Pym, Van Dyne, and Foster all carried some water and were allowed to do so.

The bad:
-Hope. Despite her name being on the posters, she's very much secondary for large chunks of a movie that really could easily have been led by her. We open with the notion that the quest to find her mother is the main driver of the film... but it doesn't really get the space it deserves, considering the loss of Janet is the defining trauma of her life.

-Sonny Birch. Look, I get it, he's not really meant to be all that menacing, but past a certain point... a guy who sells black market tech should have brought more than a few thugs with firearms to a fight with people he knows do superhero stuff- and if he can't, then his insistence makes him look terminally stupid.

-Scott's giant antics. If his stunt in Berlin left him out cold for days, and you take the time to tell us that in the movie, then having him not merely up and about, but running away after getting even bigger- multiple times- in the span of a single day? Come onnnnn.

The "eh":
-Ghost. While her motives are more relatable than her comic counterpart, they're also more generic.

-All the fuss about Scott's house arrest. It's... really hard to drum up much suspense on this front, Marvel.

-The overuse of some gags. Less is more, and some of the longer running gags could have been cut back a bit.


Missus Turin and I found ourselves feeling that this film was ... flat.

Spoiler:

The kind of flat that left us feeling overall to the effect of "okay, so this film was to set up, what, exactly?"

Asides from the Baba Yaga references and the interplay between Janet and Hank ... flat.

(Pfeiffer and Douglas) Janet van Dyne and Hank Pym were our favorite characters in this film. They played off each other in wonderful, subtle ways.

I am hoping that Baba Yaga gets played up in some form or fashion in future MCU films. I am not optimistic about this, but they're getting better at laying the groundwork for future events very, very quickly.

The villains weren't really villains in the MCU scale of villainy. Granted, this is a refreshing change-up that lends some grounding to the film, at the cost of "where's the villain?". A big plus is that they were characters instead of the typical cliche MCU villain we've largely been seeing. Ones we could see reprising their roles in the future.

Lang's master of electrical engineering suddenly losing about 30 points of IQ ... 2 years of house arrest plus another 3 years' probation one would hope would not result in Lang effectively becoming stupider.

Hope almost got to push Lang into sidekick territory. If that had happened I think the film would have been a bit better.

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