Trailer: Ant Man and the Wasp


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You gave her wings and blasters?.

Looks like it's going to be same tone as first movie, very cool.


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Well done!


Looks OK, I guess. I wasn't particularly impressed by the first one.

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I thought the first movie was really good and this trailer looks fantastic!

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Hel-lo Kitty!

If you liked Ant Man, you'll like this.


Freehold is in.


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It's nice to see Hello Kitty getting a cameo. :-)


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I wonder what the contractor was thinking when the rich old coot gave him building plans for an office building with a secret hidden giant luggage handle.

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I wonder what the contractor was thinking when the rich old coot gave him building plans for an office building with a secret hidden giant luggage handle.

And the wheels under it, with no basement.


No idea but considering Hank Pym isn't known for being THAT serious at times, I'm still convinced he built parts of it himself.

Also this is interesting trailer but not sure it has the same hook level the original did. It does have the same humor which is good.

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TRAILER


Two things I enjoyed about this trailer: Laurence Fishbourne and the drum playing giant ant.


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I feel the need to point out that the drum-playing giant ant was also wearing Scott's ankle bracelet.

To say I'm keen to see this explained is, well, a bit of an understatement.


I must have missed that. Thanks Redblade! :)


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That's what I do, I help! :D

(Also, note that there seems to be a towel wrapped around the ant's leg so that the ankle bracelet will fit. Really covering his bases there.)


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Really liked the new trailer, especially Hope's scenes. Could that scene with her and the bad guys in the black SUV be an homage to the Deadpool/bad guys in SUV scene from the first Deadpool?


I certainly hope not.


So is Laurence Fishburne playing Bill Foster? Who else would be connected to Pym and be part of a Goliath project?

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TarSpartan wrote:
So is Laurence Fishburne playing Bill Foster? Who else would be connected to Pym and be part of a Goliath project?

I believe so, yes. Since they are going with an older Pym, an older Foster also makes sense.


There could be Erik Josten maybe...


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So long as he isnt killed by a thor clone I will be happy.


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That seems unlikely and very much a Bendis writing move.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
That seems unlikely and very much a Bendis writing move.

Mark Millar, I thought?


Either one, Ben.

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Did Goliath get killed by a Thor clone twice?

Poor guy can't catch a break!


I like everything I'm seeing here.


Benchak,

No just the once. Though the Thor clone did end up the Thunderbolts for a while...

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I had the day off so I went to see this at a matinee. Really enjoyed it, I must say, overall.

Good:
- Scott's relationship with Cassie and Cassie in general. Cassie earns extra points for being a child character in a superhero film I do not find extraneous or annoying, which is exceedingly rare.
- Amazing, amazing, amazing fun use of the growing shrinking tech throughout. The trailer was just a chase, and was done very well.
- The Wasp/Hope is amazingly badass in her action scenes
- The actress who plays Ghost was great and her costume and effects were really great
- Hank is just the right balance of absolutely f!#~ing frustrating with still having his humanity show
- It plays "Come on Get Happy" from the Partridge Family. Twice.
- Michelle Pfeiffer was all I hoped she'd be.
- Lots of fun lighthearted playfulness while still having a good human root to the story that doesn't make it feel irreverent
- Bill Foster was a cool character (not familiar with him from the comics, but the only character I know well from the comics is Scott from when he was in F4 which is in a very different point in his life)

Eh:
- While she gets more than enough screen time, Hope is mainly reactive to the other characters and doesn't get enough character development. Like, at all.
- Luis and the team could have been used a tad less (but he does get a crowning moment of awesome that is pretty great and he deserves it)
- Scott can be frustratingly thick-headed and yet at the same time I think most of the rest of the cast is unfair to him most of the time, which makes watching him always feel a little heartbreaking at times that I feel like my heart shouldn't be being broken

No:
- I loved the *idea* of Ghost, but I was disappointed she didn't have some of the anti-corporate motivations that the character has in the comics, and moreover, nearly her ENTIRE plot on a basic level is lifted wholesale from another Marvel TV property.

Which property was that, DQ? (spoilers for Ghost's plot):

Ghost's plot is a complete and obvious theft/rehash of Jason Wilkes' plot from Season 2 of Agent Carter. Character gets caught in lab explosion and becomes incorporeal and unable to control the form, but then is able to control it somewhat later to a quantum containment/resonance chamber (due to the genius of an unappreciated black scientist--in AC, the character himself and in AM&tW a scientist that helps her). BUT the phasing person still needs a permanent solution or will eventually fade into nothingness, and so out of desperation starts to do terrible things, and needs to rely on the quantum powers of a beautiful scientific genius lady to survive.
And yet despite the sheer, obvious plot theft from Agent Carter, when people are tortured with truth serum in this movie (and they are), not ONE blithely looks up at their interrogator and smile nonchalantly, purring, "Like mother's milk" which if you're gonna steal from a show steal the fun bits too.

- There were way too f*#*ing many antagonists (no pun intended)/obstacles/enemy characters. In particular, there's this one stupid tech dealer guy who is a complete f+@@ing waste of screentime and his presence overcomplicates the plot pointlessly. Without him, we could have had much better character development of the main villains as well as more family time for the heroes.

Overall I still had tremendous fun.

I will say, at the risk of spoiling things... if you want to leave the theater happy... as much as I want you to stay for the credits because you should read the credits.... don't stay for the credits. (But you still should anyway.)

So about that ending, DQ, does it reference another certain recent Marvel film? YES SERIOUSLY SPOILERS AND ALSO CURSING HERE:

Yes, yes it does, after the first credit bop. And yes, most of the main characters are dusted, and Scott is safe(ish) because he is in the Quantum Realm. What f!#!ing pisses me off is Wasp is dusted and that means she won't be in 4 until probably the very end and FOR F*#%S SAKE SHE SHOULD BE IN AN AVENGERS MOVIE ALREADY BECAUSE SHE WAS AN ORIGINAL F**@ING AVENGER YOU F@%~ING MARVEL A#+~@@~S.

Go see it, it was fun.


I read that part and like you, I always liked that Ghost (male, female, whatever) was anti-corporate more than just some mustache twirling bad guy. (That's Thanos.)


This movie is not perfect, but it by far the best marvel movie I have ever seen. I am talking better than x2, spiderman, cap 2, black panther.

Maybe cause I enjoy a bit of silly in my super hero movie. I loved the original ant man and suspected this might be a bloat of a movie. But while I concede there was too many villains, I didn't care.

This is such a fun movie. Really lifted my spirits and this is one I will see again in the theatre, maybe tomorrow.


Saw it. I think this was a good choice for marvel to break out of their usual style. It wasn't perfect but considering where its falling and everything going on around I Think it was ok.

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Loved it. It was so fun and light hearted. Jokes were awesome. And I didn't feel like there were too many villains.


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To me the real antagonist was time. So a little weird but like I said a little variety is good.


Awesome film.


It was really FUN!

Think I prefer it to the first one.

Carry on!

--C.

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And i just love how they de-aged certain actors in certain scenes. THAT WAS AWESOME

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The de-aging was incredible. Michelle Pfeiffer really looked like she did in Batman Returns (in terms of at that age, not like she was dressed in polyvinyl).

Yeah, on reflection I agree this was better than the first overall.

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I'm amazed at what a scientific genius Janet was, not only in how she figured out [redacted] but also calculated the precise amount of make-up she would need to save in order to be perfectly eye-linered, eyesgadowed, and lipsticked when located. What perseverance of forethought!
/snark


If you dwell on the science too long, things fall apart so I tried not to worry about stuff like that. For example, do you age in the quantum realm?

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Black Dougal wrote:
If you dwell on the science too long, things fall apart so I tried not to worry about stuff like that. For example, do you age in the quantum realm?

You will see


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Those Water Bears might make for a neat new Druid animal companion(sea based of course)


Black Dougal wrote:
If you dwell on the science too long, things fall apart so I tried not to worry about stuff like that. For example, do you age in the quantum realm?

Yeah you have to ignore the science I mean even the initial description for pym particles was it reduced the distance one atom had to another. so obviously it would be impossible to shrink down smaller then an atom.

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Reckless wrote:

I'm amazed at what a scientific genius Janet was, not only in how she figured out [redacted] but also calculated the precise amount of make-up she would need to save in order to be perfectly eye-linered, eyesgadowed, and lipsticked when located. What perseverance of forethought!

/snark

Given her quantum manipulation skills extended to making a jedi robe and some kind of lance, I'm just assuming it's sort of magical quantum makeup. Maybe that'll be Besame cosmetics next line. ;)


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... cosmetics ... people are snarking about cosmetics?

We are better than that.


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Reckless wrote:

I'm amazed at what a scientific genius Janet was, not only in how she figured out [redacted] but also calculated the precise amount of make-up she would need to save in order to be perfectly eye-linered, eyesgadowed, and lipsticked when located. What perseverance of forethought!

/snark

Well, she can manipulate quantum energy now, so lightly stimulating her own epidermal cells to produce discrete controlled pigments seems within the realm of plausibility. (No Prize?)

Also, my brain Freudian slipped-up, misreading "eyesgadowed" as eyesgadoted. Happy place.

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Those Water Bears might make for a neat new Druid animal companion(sea based of course)

Ripper was pretty damn scary (and then awesome, heartbreaking, and happy) on Star Trek: Discovery.

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Thought it was great. I didn't feel there were too many villains though, and I like that one set of antagonists (the FBI) weren't really villains at all, but were still a threat to the heroes. Complications like that where the solution isn't "beat them up" are always a good thing.

Mid credit

Spoiler:

I'm fully expecting Ant Man to travel through a time vortex to escape, show up in the past and have the opportunity to change things subtly to alter the outcome of Infinity War. I also think we'll see Doctor Strange show up in the Quantum Realm from when he was using the Time Stone to explore possible futures, and tell Scott what he needs to do "Go through that time vortex over there in exactly 24 seconds, then change these things precisely these ways. Should be fun to see Scott re-enter the Infinity War timeline like Marty did in Back to the Future II (into the first Back to the future).


I didn't think it was better than the original, just a worthy sequel.


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So you're saying it has the power of Thor? ;)


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
So you're saying it has the power of Thor? ;)

no, as I did not like the thor movies.

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But then it can't be worthy.

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