Unless your GM is putting in multiple hours to rewrite every single encounter in Book 4 and later you will be incredibly powerful unless you do almost nothing. The Paladin in my group did 750+ damage a round at level 20 without trying , if he put an effort in he could and did pass 2000 damage in one round
You will be level 20 Tier 10 as written at the end of the AP and minor issues like Demon Lords will be inconsequential to you. I have done the Paladin of Arshea thing in another game and it works as well as armour generally I used a dip into Oracle to replace dex bonus with Cha and pre-nerfed Nereids Grace but you have a decent dex.
Champion is great for killing things as it means you almost always get a full attack after spending a mythic point. Mythic Power attack is an obvious choice as you will already have insane accuracy .
Your build will do less damage (probably) than the one I Saw as GM but as noted unless your GM puts more effort than I did and is willing to multiply enemy hp by 20 or so then optimisation is not needed to just have fun.
Your GM will probably not , I didn't from Book 5 onwards.
It did not take a lot of effort to get that damage
He had Str 42 after magic items, wish spells, Cha 40 and Con 26 other stats much lower
He was using a greatsword
+27 Power attack
+5 enhancement
+24 strength
+4 morale (mythic heroism)
+24 Smite (Silver smite Bracers)
total 3d6 +84 +2d6 holy
at +61 To hit and hit even if he rolled a 1
On average he got 1 crit , he did not have mythic Improved Crit as I had banned it, I also banned the extra power attack on a crit.
He would on average get 1 crit per turn( 6 attacks with a 20% chance of crit each)
which comes on average to 95*7 +7*6= 717 damage in an statistically average round, hardly worth rolling the dice that just happens to anything with an AC of less than 62
(I think he could do better than this with some extra buffs like divine favor and hunters bond from the Ranger)
Against a foe worth noticing the Wizard would punch an extended Litany of Righteousness through with the use of a limited wish to cast it.
So that goes up to 95*13+42
He had a legendary weapon so he could spend mythic points on Foe Biter which doubles damage , last time I checked there where 2 opinions on how this worked I just added another multiplier it 'could' have doubled everything.
which takes us to 95*19 +42 on an average turn for 1847, add in a few extra buffs and if he rolled well and got 2 or 3 crits he could easily beat 2000 damage.
This did not involve powergaming much
By RAW each crit should have been worth an extra 48 damage from power attack
and improved critical mythic would add an extra 95 per crit (+another 24 from power attack) this would make the damage even worse)
So in an average round he automatically kills a CR29 Demon Lord without the rest of the party doing anything. The Rangers pet Badger soloed a none mythic Balor.
The motto of this story is don't worry about not optimising enough.
The story and characters are great, mythic rules are ****
Greater 2 weapon fighting with longsword
6 attacks with main weapon, 4 with off hand we will assume 1 crit and a +6 strength boost item, now you have not taken the mythic power precision so your iterative attacks may miss, but you will have a good charisma , I suspect you will have trouble missing AC 47.
So each weapon (I assume +5 Holy, you are a paladin and so you only need to buy 1 of them)
Main hand 1d8 + 18 (power)+10 strength +5 enhancment +23 smite (silver smite bracers are cheap) +2d6
off hand 1d8 +9 +5 +5+23+2d6
Call it one crit with the main hand weapon
61*7+7*6 +off hand 47*4 +4*7
So I expect you to do about 685 damage a round at level 20/10 and you could end up with better particularly if your party has a bard or someone puts a litany of righteousness on the target
Also I would expect a charisma of 34 after using wish spells (level 20 characters have a lot of cash, mine had a lot more than WBL and I had not allowed crafting)
So AC of 43 plus any natural armour , not that bad. The Two handed weapon paladin had 39, the shield using ranger had 63 and my best arshea .(The Wizard had about 15 as he realised he could not get it high enough and depended on magic for defense)
Uhm... John... Uh, I dunno how to say this to you, but something was weird with your WotR campaign.
The module doesn't go to Mythic Tier 10, or Level 20. It stops around level 18 Mythic Tier 9.
Per the advancement track, the PCs should be Level 18, Mythic Tier 9 at the end of book 5... there's a sixth book.
I ran the campaign entirely as written (CLARIFY I was the GM) except for spending a huge amount of time improving the characteristics of every single encounter. I do that for most AP's as I enjoy it and I often have a slightly large group who are somewhat competent at optimising. For this AP I had to go to levels undreamed of.
I thought that Adventures 2 and 4 were Brilliantly written, 1,3 and 6 were quite good and 5 was a bit weak but that is true of most AP's that not all sections are equal in a readers eyes. Book 4 in particular was one of the best I read.
How with a level 18-20 party and around a million gold can you not get Access to Wish spells? In none mythic campaigns my players use them
I make 0 effort to optimise in this thread ,I could optimise this but to do that I would change your mythic purchases and that would be wrong.
The Level 20 mythic 10 wizard cast all the wish spells at level 17 or 18 I can't remember and you don't want to know when they had the down time , he could cast over 20 a day using mythic points so there was no problem getting them cast the paladin used 8 to boost 2 stats.
(Disclaimer , the stats I Quoted use a +8 Enhancement bonus to Str and Con from a Heart of the Mammoth spell which is a bit obscure so many would be 2 less)
Not going to get into an arguement about mythic , been there done that . It's broken. The AP is good, the mythic rules are not. I regularly run High level games the problems with mythic where an order of magnitude worse than normal (The level 20 Antipaladin Graveknight from way of the Wicked was far , far , far less dangerous than this and no one can cast more than 20 wish spells in a day normally (or other 9th level spells I won't mention the more dangerous combinations which break the game))
Your build is fine it will utterly break combat but any Paladin/fighter/Ranger/Barbarian/Bloodrager build will . The one I had was two handed Paladin with a greastsword by someone in his first PF campaign all he did really was take power attack.
I will say that the AP often puts the characters under time pressure so you may not get time to do much crafting in the later books . I let my PC Wizard retrain his crafting feats when I realised how little time he would have and in most campaigns I have players crafing a lot of their gear.
Sorry for my negativity , my players enjoyed the entire campaign and hopefully so will you and hopefully your GM will have the stamina to finish it
My 20 minute optimised 2wf Paladin he is under budget on WBL Expected 838 damage per round increaseing with the use of legendary weapon and Litany of Righteousness.
No spoilers for the AP and the only buff spell cast is haste, my party never engaged without haste the familiar had a wand of haste
Unnamed Hero
Azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) unchained monk 2/paladin 19/Champion 10 (Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of Angels 22, Pathfinder Player Companion: Legacy of Dragons 14, Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 7, Pathfinder Unchained 14)
N Medium outsider (native)
Hero Points 1
Init +25; Senses darkvision 60 ft.; Perception +0
Aura courage (10 ft.), faith (10 ft.), justice (10 ft.), resolve (10 ft.), righteousness (10 ft.)
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Defense
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AC 60, touch 52, flat-footed 44 (+8 armor, +13 Cha, +13 deflection, +15 Dex, +1 dodge)
hp 363 (21d10+153)
Fort +29, Ref +38, Will +25
Defensive Abilities evasion, hard to kill, mythic saving throws, unstoppable; DR 5/evil; Immune charm, compulsion, disease, fear; Resist acid 5, cold 5, electricity 5
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Offense
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Speed 60 ft.
Melee +5 holy gladius +51/+51/+51/+51/+51 (1d6+61/17-20/×3 plus 2d6 vs. evil) or
. . +5 holy gladius +51/+51/+51/+51 (1d6+52/17-20/×3 plus 2d6 vs. evil) or
. . unarmed strike +44/+44/+44/+44/+44/+44 (1d6+56)
Special Attacks channel positive energy 11/day (DC 32, 10d6), flurry of blows (unchained), mythic power (23/day, surge +1d12), smite evil 7/day (+13 attack and AC, +23 damage), stunning fist (6/day, DC 33)
Spell-Like Abilities (CL 21st; concentration +34)
. . 1/day—glitterdust (DC 25)
Paladin Spell-Like Abilities (CL 19th; concentration +32)
. . At will—detect evil
Paladin Spells Prepared (CL 16th; concentration +29)
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Statistics
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Str 17, Dex 40, Con 18, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 36
Base Atk +21; CMB +32; CMD 76
Feats Double Slice, Greater Two-weapon Fighting, Improved Critical[M], Improved Two-weapon Fighting, Improved Unarmed Strike, Power Attack[M], Slashing Grace[ACG], Stunning Fist, Two-weapon Fighting[M], Two-weapon Grace, Weapon Finesse[M], Weapon Focus (short sword)[M]
Skills Acrobatics +15 (+27 to jump), Diplomacy +15; Racial Modifiers +2 Diplomacy
Languages Celestial, Common, Primordial
SQ amazing initiative, fleet charge[MA], fleet warrior[MA], force of will, hero points, immortal, lay on hands 22/day (9d6), legendary champion, legendary hero, legendary item[MA], legendary item[MA], legendary item[MA], mythic smite[MA], precision[MA], precision[MA], precision[MA], prestige unseen court, prestige-flint, prestige-risur, recuperation
Other Gear +5 holy gladius[UC], +5 holy gladius[UC], belt of physical perfection +6, bracers of armor +8, headband of alluring charisma +6, silver smite bracelet[APG]
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Special Abilities
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Amazing Initiative (1/round) (Ex) As a free action, use 1 power to gain an extra standard action (can't be used to cast a spell).
Aura of Courage +4 (10 ft.) (Su) Allies in aura gain a morale bonus to saves vs. fear.
Aura of Faith (10 ft.) (Su) Attacks vs. foes in range bypass DR as good-aligned. Own attacks always count as good.
Aura of Justice (10 ft.) (Su) As a standard action use 2 smite evil, allies in area gain smite at your bonus for 1 min.
Aura of Resolve +4 (10 ft.) (Su) Allies in aura gain a morale bonus to saves vs. charm.
Aura of Righteousness +4 (10 ft.) (Su) Allies in aura gain a morale bonus to saves vs. compulsion.
Damage Reduction (5/evil) You have Damage Reduction against all except Evil attacks.
Darkvision (60 feet) You can see in the dark (black and white only).
Detect Evil (At will) (Sp) You can use detect evil at will (as the spell).
Energy Resistance, Acid (5) You have the specified Energy Resistance against Acid attacks.
Energy Resistance, Cold (5) You have the specified Energy Resistance against Cold attacks.
Energy Resistance, Electricity (5) You have the specified Energy Resistance against Electricity attacks.
Evasion (Ex) If succeed on Reflex save for half dam, take none instead.
Fleet Charge (Ex) As a swift action, use 1 power to move speed & attack (+10 bonus, bypass all DR).
Fleet Warrior (Ex) You may move up to your full speed before or after making a full attack.
Flurry of Blows (Unchained) (Ex) As full-rd action, gain extra attacks with unarmed strike/monk weapons.
Force of Will (Ex) As an immediate action, use 1 power to reroll any d20, or force non-mythic to reroll.
Hard to Kill (Ex) Automatically stabilize when dying, and only die at neg Con x 2.
Hero Points Hero Points can be spent at any time to grant a variety of bonuses.
Immortal (Su) Ressurrect next day, unless killed by an artifact's crit.
Immunity to Charm You are immune to charm effects.
Immunity to Compulsion You are immune to compulsion.
Immunity to Disease You are immune to diseases.
Immunity to Fear (Ex) You are immune to all fear effects.
Improved Unarmed Strike Unarmed strikes don't cause attacks of opportunity, and can be lethal.
Lay on Hands (9d6 hit points, 22/day) (Su) As a standard action (swift on self), touch channels positive energy and applies mercies.
Legendary Champion (Ex) On a miss against a non-mythic foe, reroll and take 2nd result. Activate when roll 20 to regain 1 power.
Legendary Hero (Su) One use of mythic power is regained each hr.
Mythic Saving Throws (Ex) A successful save negates all effects from a non-mythic source.
Mythic Smite (Su) Recover 1 smite w/mythic power, attacks vs. evil creatures bypass DR for rest of turn.
Paladin Channel Positive Energy 10d6 (11/day, DC 32) (Su) Positive energy heals the living and harms the undead; negative has the reverse effect.
Power Attack [Mythic] Use 1 power to eliminate attack penalties of Power attack for 1 min.
Prestige (Flint): 0 Most fantasy adventurers are “free agents,” with no boss but themselves, usually out on the edge of civilization with few allies they can call on in a pinch. In Zeitgeist, though, you and your fellow PCs may want to call in favors from the RHC, t
Prestige (Risur): 0 Most fantasy adventurers are “free agents,” with no boss but themselves, usually out on the edge of civilization with few allies they can call on in a pinch. In Zeitgeist, though, you and your fellow PCs may want to call in favors from the RHC, t
Prestige (Unseen): 0 Most fantasy adventurers are “free agents,” with no boss but themselves, usually out on the edge of civilization with few allies they can call on in a pinch. In Zeitgeist, though, you and your fellow PCs may want to call in favors from the RHC, t
Recuperation (Ex) Fully heal after 8 hrs rest, use 1 power and 1 hr to heal half and restore all non-mythic abilities.
Slashing Grace (Gladius) Treat chosen weapon as 1-handed piercing weapon and can add Dex instead of Str to dam.
Smite Evil (7/day) (Su) +13 to hit, +23 to damage, +13 deflection bonus to AC when used.
Stunning Fist (6/day, DC 33) You can stun an opponent with an unarmed attack.
Surge (1d12) (Su) Use 1 power to increase any d20 roll by the listed amount.
Two-Weapon Fighting [Mythic] As an imm. action, use 1 power to negate all two weapon fighting attack penalties for 10 rds.
Two-Weapon Grace Can gain effects of certain feats limited by free off hand when two weapon fighting.
Unstoppable (Ex) As a free action, use 1 power to end one listed condition on yourself.
Weapon Focus [Mythic, Short sword] 1 MP: As a swift action, add half tier to attack with selected weapon.
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