No more range penalties on Perception?


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We can see the stars again!

But it doesn't really sit well with me that my highly trained sniper (+15 Stealth) is going to automatically get spotted from 10,000 feet away by literally everyone while sniping (-5 Perception DC).


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

remember the terrain you in effects how far u can see

ex.
Stealth and Detection in a Forest
In a sparse forest, the maximum distance at which a creature can
succeed at a Perception check to detect the presence of others is
3d6×10 feet. In a medium forest, this distance is 2d8×10 feet, and
in a dense forest it is 2d6×10 feet.


Sure ... but no modifiers to Perception based on size of target, distance to target? Makes zero sense.

Grand Lodge

It does say that GM will determine the DC, as such he can just tell you that you can't see something regardless of your bonus


That makes some sense accounting for range and environmental factors ... but no so much for smaller/bigger things. The old -1/10' universal penalty understandably goes away for vision-based checks. It makes sense to retain in for auditory-based checks (as this is explicitly mentioned in the forest environments section re: encounter distance), and a greater penalty for olfactory-based checks (-2 or -5 per 10' or something playable).

As an aside, I was really hoping they'd put the unusual senses into a range increment format more often than not.

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