Have you looked at the divine hunter or virtous bravo archetypes? One ofmthose might be a good fit for you. I'd personally pass on the dragon siciple, but I tend to skip prestige classes, so I may be a bit biased.
Was there a change to Dragon Disciple where bonus caster levels can be Divine? Original class lists Arcane caster levels.
The feat Scaled Disciple enables you to substitute spontaneous divine casting for spontaneous arcane casting for the Dragon Disciple prestige class. There are two problems with that feat for the build discussed in this thread:
1) It requires you to be a kobold, and
2) It does nothing for prepared divine casters like the paladin.
Assuming only a 1 level Bard dip, you'll be casting as a 4th level Bard and have the bloodline abilities of a 3rd level Draconic Sorcerer.
You can cast a couple 2nd level Arcane spells from the Bard list and maybe a 1st level Divine spell from the Paladin list.
+4 STR, a breath weapon, +3 nat. armor, 2 non-magical claw attacks and a bite, resist 5 to an energy type, a single bloodline feat, and the Mage Armor spell...
So spells are just an after thought for you, all you'really after is the STR boost and Power Attack, correct? Why not just get Power Attack as a regular feat and a +4 STR belt? As much as I love Dragon Disciple, it seems unnecessary in this case.
pretty sure paladin is a spontaneous caster since it uses cha for casting and all cha based classes are spontaneous castersWas there a change to Dragon Disciple where bonus caster levels can be Divine? Original class lists Arcane caster levels.The feat Scaled Disciple enables you to substitute spontaneous divine casting for spontaneous arcane casting for the Dragon Disciple prestige class. There are two problems with that feat for the build discussed in this thread:
1) It requires you to be a kobold, and
2) It does nothing for prepared divine casters like the paladin.
That is not what the PRD or the Core Rulebook says:
"Spells: Beginning at 4th level, a paladin gains the ability to cast a small number of divine spells which are drawn from the paladin spell list presented in Spell Lists. A paladin must choose and prepare her spells in advance."
pretty sure paladin is a spontaneous caster since it uses cha for casting and all cha based classes are spontaneous castersWas there a change to Dragon Disciple where bonus caster levels can be Divine? Original class lists Arcane caster levels.The feat Scaled Disciple enables you to substitute spontaneous divine casting for spontaneous arcane casting for the Dragon Disciple prestige class. There are two problems with that feat for the build discussed in this thread:
1) It requires you to be a kobold, and
2) It does nothing for prepared divine casters like the paladin.
All spontaneous casters may be CHA based but that doesn't mean all CHA based casters are spontaneous. Actually, I could have sworn there was an INT or WIS based spontaneous caster...
Hunter and inquisitor are both wis based spont casters. Not to mention a handful of archetypes that switch casting stats around.
If you're looking for a str boost, why not take a level of bloodrager and the extra rage feat? Gets you the bonus to str when you need it and if you go ID Rager bloodrager Anger you also get more str and power attack while raging.
Going id rager 1 paladin X is quite good, and comes online a lot faster.
EDIT:
Just noticed that this guy is an archer, since you're an archer don't dip at all. There's no reason to. No reason to go melee via DD or swashbuckler. Just stay with ranged.
Psychic, Occultist, and Psychic Detective Investigator are Int-based spontaneous casters (albeit psychic casters).
The Silksworn Occultist and Questioner Investigator are arcane Int-based spontaneous casters.
would a spell like ability qualify some one as able to cast 1st level arcain spells with out preparation?
Not anymore. That was allowed for about a year, but that option was rescinded.
i am a archer, but i want to ALSO be able to melee well.
1 bard > DD4 is 1 path.
1 swashbuckler will add dex to hit with scimitar.
What you're saying is effectively "I'm a sniper rifle, but I want the rounds to also scatter like a shotgun." Cause a sniper round that tried that would do a poor job at both, it won't be that great a sniper anymore compared to a pure sniper, nor will it actually work like a shotgun, since it's a sniper.
You'll only be good at 1 thing, do you want to reduce your effectiveness at that one thing to be slightly less worse but still bad at some "backup option"?
Because trust me, you'll not regret staying pure archer and not caring about melee. Sure, level 1 or 2 it may LOOK like you want to do melee, but by level 4 onwards you'll realize that there's NO POINT in ever using melee.
Like seriously, I've seen a good amount of rangers, and paladins and whatnot that are planned to be switch hitters from the get go. And sure enough, all of them around lv 4-5 have basically picked a primary combat style and aren't switching in fights and by lv 7-8 regret spending feats on the now neglected combat style. I've yet to come across a character that actually was switch hitting levels 6+
**and especially if you stay pure paladin, 14 str and smiting is far and above enough to "do melee" if you ever really needed to for some obscure (grappled?) reason.**
If you still insist on trying melee, and that a 14 str isn't good enough, just pick up the weapon finesse feat instead of dipping classes for it. That's not really strong enough to justify a dip for. If you insist on dipping, take a dip into urban bloodrager, it'll give you rage that can boost your accuracy by as much or about as much as weapon finesse will, while also adding to damage, and can be used to boost dex when you are doing archery. 4 levels of that will qualify for DD if you insist on going into that.
One of my favorite PFS characters is a Nagaji Arcane Duelist Bard 1, Oathbound Paladin 4, Dragon Disciple 5 (or 6 - been a while since I played him - I think he might now be 11th level).
He is a very very unusual sight - a lizard,...
Nagaji are actually ophidian humanoids. So snake-based rather than lizard-based.
Right been a year plus since I got to play him.
I only noticed because I really wish there was a fully realized lizard-based character option. The Nagaji and the Vishkanya are both descended from snakes, Kobolds are descended from Dragons, but there isn't a lizard-based race. :(
lizard based race
Yeah, if they ever get around to fleshing out the Lizardfolk, I'll be very happy. I thought using them as a basic example in the ARG was a cruel tease. ;)
Playing a Lizardfolk character has been in the back of my mind since I first saw Jeff Dee's illustration of Phoebus in the early 80's.
lizard based raceYeah, if they ever get around to fleshing out the Lizardfolk, I'll be very happy. I thought using them as a basic example in the ARG was a cruel tease. ;)
Playing a Lizardfolk character has been in the back of my mind since I first saw Jeff Dee's illustration of Phoebus in the early 80's.
You may want to check out the Lizardfolk and Troglodyte sections of the Monster Codex
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I am trying to do a PFS paladin/ sorcerer/DD build. Just got his 2nd level in paladin and will then go into sorcerer. Trying to make him more like the dragons of old, fight with weapons when he has to but can blast and use magic as well. He is a paladin of Apsu. Still trying to figure out which blood type I want, gold seems great but I do love green dragons though. Maybe another sorcerer/green dragon blooded Disciple :)
Also trying to get a bronze dragon blooded sorcerer into the PRC as well in a CORE campaign. He should be 3rd level soon.
I have loved the PRC since 3rd edition. My first 3.+ character was a cleric of Bahamut/Sorcerer/ Red Dragon Disciple. He was a lot of fun.