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there is a trope called exacly on the tin in tv tropes for this sttuation
That takes too many words.
I'd also like to inquire about this, as well as prestige classes. The latter was also a feature in Pathfinder's Core Rulebook, although I haven't heard anything about it in Starfinder. I'm pretty sure people have asked about prestige classes before, but I haven't seen an answer anywhere.
I heard you're allowed to do it. It wasn't a surprise since it's been allowed since the game began.
Did you hear anything about how that will interact with Archetypes?
The same way it does now, which is to say you can multiclass and mix and match archetypes all you want, as long as no two archetypes replace the same feature of the same class.
What's the mystery exactly?
Archetypes work differently in Starfinder and basically nothing like Pathfinder archetypes.
In SF archetypes can be applied to any class and grant their bonuses at specific levels, replacing something at said level that the base class gets. (We assume this means every class gets talents of some kind at the same levels so that archetypes can replace something of equal worth from each class.)
So a Phrenic Adept Operative and a Phrenic Adept Soldier get the same Phrenic Adept powers at the same levels.
So what happens when I multiclass a Phrenic Adept Soldier into Phrenic Adept Operative? Or can I not even do that the same way you can't in Anachronistic Adventures (also written by Owen K.C. Stephens).
The same way it does now, which is to say you can multiclass and mix and match archetypes all you want, as long as no two archetypes replace the same feature of the same class.
What's the mystery exactly?
Since archetypes replace class features, the question would arise as to what an archetype gives you when it has two classes as its source. For example, let's say that each class has a 2nd level class feature that is replaced by an archetype feature. If you have two levels in each of two classes, what do you get when you reach 2nd level in your 2nd class? There is no guarantee that the archetype gives you anything at 4th level -- and if it does, I am sure that it would be possible to come up with a combination of class levels where you lose a class feature without gaining an archetype feature or vice versa.
The archetype replacement ability is based on class level, rather than character level so it's not an issue.
Say you have class A with archetype 1 and milticlass to class B with archetype 2. The archetype replaces a class feature at level j. When you reach level j in class A that class feature is replaced by the archetpe 1 feature. This is irrespective of how many levels of class B or total character levels you have.
I.e. Even though ATs are usable with any class they must still be assigned to a specfic class which will have abilities replaced.
It is very much an issue when trying to multiclass but want the same archetype for more than one of your classes
But what if you want to have class A with archetype 1 and class B with archetype 1 as well? That is the case that I was raising a question about -- and it is one that very seldom comes up in Pathfinder.
The rules may forbid doing that -- or they may even forbid taking a second archetype at all. Or perhaps all archetypes provide a choice of options at each relevant level so as to make them work for multiclass characters. There is too much that we don't know for us to be sure how potential issues about combining archetypes and multiclassing will be resolved.
It is very much an issue when trying to multiclass but want the same archetype for more than one of your classesThe archetype replacement ability is based on class level, rather than character level so it's not an issue.
Say you have class A with archetype 1 and milticlass to class B with archetype 2. The archetype replaces a class feature at level j. When you reach level j in class A that class feature is replaced by the archetpe 1 feature. This is irrespective of how many levels of class B or total character levels you have.
I.e. Even though ATs are usable with any class they must still be assigned to a specfic class which will have abilities replaced.
That's simple.
You can't.
Well that's not fun.
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The multi class rules in Starfinder are roughly the same as those in Pathfinder. The major difference that comes to mind is that in Starfinder if you multi class into two classes with caster levels, those levels stack when making caster level-dependent calculations (such as the duration of a spell), though not when determining your spells known or spells per day (which remain based on the individual class levels).
Archetypes can be added to any class (though we may have a rare exception in later products). You cannot add the same archetype to two different classes when you multiclass, for the same reason you can't multi class as a soldier/soldier. You could take a new archetype with your new class. Essentially an archetype is part of the class you attach it to for your character.
We do not have prestige classes in the core rulebook, and have not made any further announcement about them.
So you could have 2 classes and 2 archetypes. Cool
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Archetypes can be added to any class (though we may have a rare exception in later products). You cannot add the same archetype to two different classes when you multiclass, for the same reason you can't multi class as a soldier/soldier. You could take a new archetype with your new class. Essentially an archetype is part of the class you attach it to for your character.
Ah. I understand the reasoning, but slight disappointment. I was almost hoping that it was more a "character" archetype rather than "class archetype" - so it wouldn't matter how many classes I took, I would still be a phrenic adept.
But I think this is the first thing that isn't everything I hoped for. I can live with it.