Homunculus Guts


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion

Scarab Sages

This is a bit of a weird one, but it came up in a group session:

Do homunculi have internal organs?

I'm not really sure where to go with this one, as they're not clay golems, and their creation method differs wildly from anything but alchemical and flesh golems. The latter most certainly does have internal organs, the former does not. In myth they do, but Pathfinder is not Bullfinch's Mythology. Certain alchemist archtypes also seem to suggest they do.

Since this involves a familiar, I don't want to pull an answer out of my backside that might have long term implications in the game.

(note, I put this in the wrong section earlier, and I ask that if the mods delete one, they delete the other one.)


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According to the SRD, a homunculus is made from "a mixture of clay, ash, mandrake root, spring water, and one pint of the creator’s own blood". No organs in the mixture at all, and the mandrake root is chosen since it usually resembles a humanoid in plant form.
full plant
root only
As can be seen in the pictures linked above, the root can be imagined as a human like form.

As to myth, I have always heard of the make-from-a-root, so neven any organs.

For a familiar, there is the Ioun Wyrd, a familiar made of rocks; a Fetish Mask, for orc scarred witches; a spell poppet (=doll), for gravewalker witches. You can even have a Companion Figurine, which is a magic item. Having an animate object without organs will not significantly affect things.

/cevah

Scarab Sages

Cevah wrote:


As to myth, I have always heard of the make-from-a-root, so neven any organs.

For a familiar, there is the Ioun Wyrd, a familiar made of rocks; a Fetish Mask, for orc scarred witches; a spell poppet (=doll), for gravewalker witches. You can even have a Companion Figurine, which is a magic item. Having an animate object without organs will not significantly affect things.

/cevah

The root is an ingredient, (according to some recipes it's ground and mixed with the clay) so I don't follow your train of thought there. The clay is what's s sculpted into the body. However, it can speak (depending on ingredients, per Alchemy book) so there has to be something in there. There are biological ingredients (blood)and they do seem to 'splat' rather than 'break'.


Baron Iveagh wrote:
Do homunculi have internal organs?

I'd say that it depends on which would be more interesting for the story you want to tell.

You're GM could also just that that there are different methods for constructing a homunculus, and that some have internal organs, while others do not.

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