
Ahpook The Destroyer |

Hey folks I have a quick question. Mainly about how flaming sphere and its cousins interact with spell resistance. I know that normally, a spell with a duration only needs to check against a target's SR once. After that it just works or it doesn't.
However, I also thought that if a spell makes you make a fresh save each time you encounter it, ala flaming sphere, you also have to check against the SR each time. The reason its different from say stinking cloud, is that flaming sphere requires an entirely new check each time you move it onto the target. Its not a continuous effect.
I have heard arguments both ways on this. Can I get something definitive?
Thanks in advance!
AtD

SlimGauge |

Effect Spells
Most effect spells summon or create something and are not subject to spell resistance. Sometimes, however, spell resistance applies to effect spells, usually to those that act upon a creature more or less directly, such as web.
Since Flaming Sphere says "Spell Resistance: Yes", it's probably safe to assume that FS is one of these aformentioned effect spells.
Spell resistance can protect a creature from a spell that’s already been cast. Check spell resistance when the creature is first affected by the spell.
So you wouldn't check spell resistance until the sphere enters a space with a creature that has spell resistance AND that creature fails the reflex save.
Check spell resistance only once for any particular casting of a spell or use of a spell-like ability. If spell resistance fails the first time, it fails each time the creature encounters that same casting of the spell. Likewise, if the spell resistance succeeds the first time, it always succeeds.
So if the creature's spell resistance works against this particular sphere, it will always work against that sphere.
EDIT:fixed broken quote tags

pirateprincess23 |

Rules wrote:Effect Spells
Most effect spells summon or create something and are not subject to spell resistance. Sometimes, however, spell resistance applies to effect spells, usually to those that act upon a creature more or less directly, such as web.
Since Flaming Sphere says "Spell Resistance: Yes", it's probably safe to assume that FS is one of these aformentioned effect spells.
Rules wrote:Spell resistance can protect a creature from a spell that’s already been cast. Check spell resistance when the creature is first affected by the spell.So you wouldn't check spell resistance until the sphere enters a space with a creature that has spell resistance AND that creature fails the reflex save.
Rules wrote:Check spell resistance only once for any particular casting of a spell or use of a spell-like ability. If spell resistance fails the first time, it fails each time the creature encounters that same casting of the spell. Likewise, if the spell resistance succeeds the first time, it always succeeds.So if the creature's spell resistance works against this particular sphere, it will always work against that sphere.
EDIT:fixed broken quote tags
So does it make the sphere disappear if it touches someone with spell resistance?