About the Android recharge requirement?

[Berselius]

About the Android race's recharge requirement, is it possible to give them another flaw before the book is released or is the design of all races set now? If the flaw remains, will it be possible to be offset by taking a 1st level feat or alternate racial trait further down the line?

[Torbyne]

What recharge requirement are you talking about? I cant remember seeing anything about one or seeing it in play...

[Tom Kalbfus]

Do all androids run on batteries? What about fuel cells? What about plugging themselves into vehicles?

[Torbyne]

They eat food and drink just as organics do. Presumably they must also poop and wipe their butts as we poor organics as well. They do seem to be immune to sleep though.

[Tom Kalbfus]

Are they what would be referred to in Battlestar Galactica as "skinjobs?" It seems kind of ridiculous to build robots that are so humanlike that you can't tell them from humans. Are there also robots that aren't androids?

[Torbyne]

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Are they what would be referred to in Battlestar Galactica as "skinjobs?" It seems kind of ridiculous to build robots that are so humanlike that you can't tell them from humans. Are there also robots that aren't androids?

Androffan design, and what we've seen of Starfinder's Pact World Androids, all have obvious tells that give them away as not human. They have circuitry patterns on their skin that glow with light at times, metallic sheen to their skin and eyes. Their skin tone and hair color seem to more often fall outside the human norm as well. That being said they still have identifiable organs that mirror their human counterparts

The Starfinder Pawn collection shows off a more traditional robot that has obvious mechanical body parts, a shoulder mounted canon and an identifying number painted on, i assume there will be a lot of conventional robots running around without souls in addition to Androids.

[Garrett Guillotte]

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

It seems kind of ridiculous to build robots that are so humanlike that you can't tell them from humans.

There's some pretty direct prior art.

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Are there also robots that aren't androids?

So far, yes, just as there are in Pathfinder, but so far there's no indication they'd be playable as that would imply playable artificial intelligences, which haven't been confirmed (or AFAIK denied).

[Voss]

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Are they what would be referred to in Battlestar Galactica as "skinjobs?" It seems kind of ridiculous to build robots that are so humanlike that you can't tell them from humans.

It depends what you build them for. And I don't even mean the primary use of the internet. Socialization and function of an intelligence is a lot easier if it blends into the environment it is designed for. Also tends to freak humans out less if it isn't obviously 'other.'

[Gilfalas]

Berselius wrote:

About the Android race's recharge requirement, is it possible to give them another flaw before the book is released or is the design of all races set now? If the flaw remains, will it be possible to be offset by taking a 1st level feat or alternate racial trait further down the line?

Can I ask where you got this idea? The most current write up for PC Androids I can find seems to be here and lists no such requirement.

Are you possibly referring to a robot of some kind from an AP or other supplement?

Or was there more information released on the Starfinder androids that I missed?

[Berselius]

I believe I saw stats for the Android race via a racial section release of a Starfinder PDF (though I'm sure how official it was as it was held on a file hosting site). The stats show that the Android has to plug themselves into a battery or energy source for two hours every day and ingest a nutrient fluid every day or else they face penalties. I feel this places severe limitations on the race's playability.

[The Sideromancer]

Berselius wrote:

I believe I saw stats for the Android race via a racial section release of a Starfinder PDF (though I'm sure how official it was as it was held on a file hosting site). The stats show that the Android has to plug themselves into a battery or energy source for two hours every day and ingest a nutrient fluid every day or else they face penalties. I feel this places severe limitations on the race's playability.

How is that different from orgaincs needing to sleep and eat?

[Berselius]

The Sideromancer wrote:

Berselius wrote:

I believe I saw stats for the Android race via a racial section release of a Starfinder PDF (though I'm sure how official it was as it was held on a file hosting site). The stats show that the Android has to plug themselves into a battery or energy source for two hours every day and ingest a nutrient fluid every day or else they face penalties. I feel this places severe limitations on the race's playability.

How is that different from orgaincs needing to sleep and eat?

Because the Android needs are more specific when compared to a human's ability to sleep and eat food.

[Gilfalas]

Berselius wrote:

Because the Android needs are more specific when compared to a human's ability to sleep and eat food.

Could you name that supplement? You know there was are/were Starfinder games being written by other companies/groups before Paizo announced theirs. Is there a possibility that this suppplement was for one of those?

As far as I understand Paizo has not released any hard data/PDF yet on their Starfinder game.

[Torbyne]

It is very unlikely what you got your hands on was an official Starfinder Android write up since its only being passed around in a closed beta.

It is interesting though as that would make Pact World Androids entirely different from Androffan Pattern Androids... and sub par in comparison too. So based on that alone i would think that what you saw is not official.

[Berselius]

Nevermind. It wasn't Starfinder. It was another setting. Can a mod please delete this thread? My bad people. :(

[Drahliana Moonrunner]

Tom Kalbfus wrote:

Are they what would be referred to in Battlestar Galactica as "skinjobs?" It seems kind of ridiculous to build robots that are so humanlike that you can't tell them from humans. Are there also robots that aren't androids?

You've obviously never connected with a modeling community and watched the eternal competition as to which model was more "lifelike'. Androids will be no different. If you think about it, there is a lot of appeal for an android that's as indistinguishable from human as you can make it.

And remember the Cylons purposely built the skin jobs for infiltration.