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Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Abadar because the god of wealth is perfect for any PC/murderhobo/mercenary

Those who obtain it by lawful means, at least.

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Malefactor wrote:
spoilers stuff about Lawful good and Chaotic good that caught my eye.

It's funny, lawful good is my least favorite aligment but from what you were saying I think we have the same underlying issue on the law/chaos axis; that the other is unrealistic/unbelievable in our experiences.

To me, that still small voice within that whispers "this is wrong" will inevitably come into conflict with tradition, authority and law which more often than not has little to do with good and much to do with enforcing an established order.

I suspect you would say something similar yet somewhat opposing.


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My monk follows Ghenshau.

Because not every monk wants to be an ascetic historical scholar; some just like gardening.


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Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Abadar because the god of wealth is perfect for any PC/murderhobo/mercenary
Those who obtain it by lawful means, at least.

I always got the impression that Abadar was 51% cares-about-civilization, 49% mercenary. Thus why he's even big in nations like Cheliax, where "lawful means" can include some incredibly wicked, nasty things. The Almighty Dollar indeed.

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Generic Villain wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Abadar because the god of wealth is perfect for any PC/murderhobo/mercenary
Those who obtain it by lawful means, at least.
I always got the impression that Abadar was 51% cares-about-civilization, 49% mercenary. Thus why he's even big in nations like Cheliax, where "lawful means" can include some incredibly wicked, nasty things. The Almighty Dollar indeed.

It's most likely more about the fact that orderly and predictable society > carefree merry-go-lucky making rules up as you go. Abadar just really doesn't like mixing morality into law, order and economy, he's an extreme positivist.


Gorbacz wrote:


It's most likely more about the fact that orderly and predictable society > carefree merry-go-lucky making rules up as you go. Abadar just really doesn't like mixing morality into law, order and economy, he's an extreme positivist.

Could very well be. I've read on the boards that Abadar is one of the older gods worshiped on Golarion (up there with Pharasma and Desna, as opposed to n00bs like Irori and Nethys), so he's probably very abstract in his personal beliefs. Blue-and-orange morality as they say on TV Tropes.

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Are these supposed to be only Golarion (demi)gods? Of those, my favorites are Keltheald, Gorum, Shimye-Magalla, and Sarenrae, probably. Keltheald is basically the god of hipster nature photographers. I've played a cleric of Gorum and had a lot of fun f%+&ing s#!+ up. And Shimye-Magalla appeals a lot both because they're extremely nonconforming (props also go to the Wily Linguist) and because they've got a portfolio I can get behind. Sarenrae as the only deity who really codifies a right to redemption is cool.

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Ok, I'm going to do this by alignment:

Lawful Good:
Ragathiel - he seems to be the most interesting of the bunch for reasons others have touched upon.

Neutral Good:
Saranrae - covers both benevolence, healing, mercy, as well as delivering asskicking when needed (kill them fast so they don't suffer is still considered mercy).

Chaotic Good:
Desna - because of astronomy and freedom, has a kind of knowledge seeking covered.

Neutral:
Nethys - because magic matters. I also find it funny that he's the only god crazy enough to actually hang out in the Malestrom, while the CN gods mostly have their domains set aside in Elysium.

Chaotic Neutral:
It's hard to pick a favorite in this category, because, while I'm most inclined to play a character of this alignment, it is unlikely I would ever play a worshiper of CN gods, outside of specific circumstances where Gorum would be the most likely pick.

Lawful Evil:
Barbatos - from the player perspective because a secretive suspected eldritch abomination with followers that are as secretive knowledge hoarders is something that's not an obvious pick, but simply screams potential.

Asmodeus - from general perspective, because Zon-Kuthon is a bit too Emo. Offers a lot as the god that villains serve.

Neutral Evil:
Another category where it's hard to pick, I could go with either Norgorber, Urgathoa or Szuriel.

[spoiler=Chaotic Evil]Lamashtu - from the GM perspective, perfect choice if you want to inject that creepy horror vibe to something.

Dagon - from the player perspective. Almost Cthulhu, but has some advantages that you can only get from Demon Lords.


Besmara
Kurgess
Milani
Shelyn
Ragathiel
Cayden Cailean

pretty much in that order


Mangenorn wrote:

Ok, I'm going to do this by alignment:

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I take it that you are not a fan of Lawful Neutral, then?

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Malefactor wrote:
I take it that you are not a fan of Lawful Neutral, then?

You guessed it.

I'm also not a fan of Pharasma.


Malefactor wrote:
Umbral Reaver wrote:
Can I choose myself?

Just because you slote Lolth's divinity once and used it to turn both yourself and Lolth into fey lords does not mean you are a god.

...Okay it kind of does, but it goes against the spirit of the whole thing.

How did I not notice that I failed to spell stole correctly so badly?

...dang boards not allowing me to edit my spelling mistakes after one hour...


I wanna do by alignment as well!

Lawful Good:
Ragathiel is a total badass and one of the few Lawful Goods I can get behind, mostly because his deal is fairly straight forward and no-nonsense but tempered by a merciful streak where possible. He is way less Lawful Ambivalent-So-Long-As-You-Kill-Demons as another lawful good deity we could mention. He just does the paladin but way more justice than other gods, and actually embodies some of struggles of paladins with self-conflict.

Lawful Neutral:
Irori due to his proclivity towards perserving and spreading knowledge and helping with self improvement. Otherwise, Lawful Neutrals are kind of my least favourite gods.

Lawful Evil:
Achaekek because he's just a giant godkiller who keeps the deities of the world in check and mortals from becoming gods and that's about it? He has the Red Mantis Assassins who are kind of cool but otherwise he doesn't really care so long as they keep in line with his ideals and keep their hands off monarchs. That, and he bums out on Asmodeus' front porch all day and I have a running theory they are both massive dudebros together and that's why Achaekek can stay there. He even has 'kek' in his name. This is a well-grounded theory in the canon of the world. I have less than zero care for any Lawful Evils.

Maybe also Mahathallah, just because she realised how much horse manure Pharasma spews out on a regular basis but it is a shame what happened to her just because she couldn't accept the absolutely terrible hand she got dealt.

Neutral Good:
Shelyn, duh. I think Sarenrae is WAY too lenient on her clergy and the stuff they get away with is pretty vile. I have no time for a god that looks at a warmongering group like the Cult of the Dawnflower and think it's a 'necessary cost' while still touting a rhetoric of good and mercy.

Neutral:
Brigh is so lonely. She needs some love :(

But f~*+ Pharasma. You don't get to dictate what is evil and good just because you hold the keys to the afterlife but don't choose to take a side because you have to be 'impartial'. That's some hypocrisy right there. Jerk.

Neutral Evil:
Eh, nihilists annoy me. So I guess Urgathoa since she is way less nihilistic than other NE's and is one of the least destructive of them all. (YOU HEAR THAT PHARASMA! I WENT THERE)

Chaotic Good:
This is a toughy. I've already said Cayden Cailean, but I also really like Milani. So a good balance of the two.

Chaotic Neutral:
Gorum is the most metal (get it) of all the gods. He is, like, a less evil Ares. And that's cool. But he is SUPER one-dimensional as a lot of gods in this alignment are. So my true CN favourite is the Lanturn King because he is just so whimsical while also deeply disturbing, and he has a lot of cool potential.

Chaotic Evil:
I hate this alignment a lot, but I have to give props to Lamashtu for being genuinely unsettling and a specific cleric of hers absolutely trouncing a party I was in that ended up nearly entirely wiped. Except Rei. Because they always get away and never suffer the consequences of their actions due to some strange divine providence and being a bad cat. Also doors are effective tools for hindering movement RAW, and yeth hounds from attacking you.


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Milani and Iomedae. I love their relationship. Both young gods (especially Milani!) and they call each other 'sister'. Both fight for good and justice, but Iomedae is very assertive and takes charge, where Milani seems more meek and always fighting a losing battle.


Garbage-Tier Waifu wrote:
Except Rei. Because they always get away and never suffer the consequences of their actions due to some strange divine providence and being a bad cat.

Who knew that a mighty cleric of Lamashtu could be so easily hindered by a simple door and flight of stairs. Hahahahaha!

I will never be caught!


LG: Zohls

NG: Eritrice

CG: Ashava

LN: Magdh

N: Shyka

CN: Groetus

LE: Mahathallah

NE: Slandrais

CE: Sifkesh


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Generic Villain wrote:
Razmir. He's successful and very very rich. If you worship him, you'll win so much you'll get tired of winning. He has the best words and a big, beautiful palace. Winner. All of the women flirt with him. Razmir's many enemies are really not very smart people and are just jealous of his success, and by the way, he is an amazing beautiful god, believe him.

He builds beautiful staircases...

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MageHunter wrote:
Generic Villain wrote:
Razmir. He's successful and very very rich. If you worship him, you'll win so much you'll get tired of winning. He has the best words and a big, beautiful palace. Winner. All of the women flirt with him. Razmir's many enemies are really not very smart people and are just jealous of his success, and by the way, he is an amazing beautiful god, believe him.
He builds beautiful staircases...

And his cult is gonna be HUGE!


Mangenorn wrote:

Ok, I'm going to do this by alignment:

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He isn't the only one to live in the Maelstrom though. Sivanah also has a floating domain somewhere in the Maelstrom. The exact location isn't fixed though. Something with hiding from proteans who rather dislike her.

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MageHunter wrote:
Generic Villain wrote:
Razmir. He's successful and very very rich. If you worship him, you'll win so much you'll get tired of winning. He has the best words and a big, beautiful palace. Winner. All of the women flirt with him. Razmir's many enemies are really not very smart people and are just jealous of his success, and by the way, he is an amazing beautiful god, believe him.
He builds beautiful staircases...
And his cult is gonna be HUGE!

And some of his faithful get their powers from Sivanah!

(yes, I'm a bit of a Sivanah fanboy)


For me, the #1 spot is Shelyn, for all the reasons listed above, and the fact that she makes for a great PC deity in any good-aligned party. Also: Paladin of Love. 'nuff said.

Honorable mentions go to:
Cayden Cailean
Callistria
Asmodeus
Sarenrae

In that order. Keeping in mind I tend to work off Inner Sea Gods, rather than appearances and/or priestly NPCs appearing in other publications. Indeed, being a big fan of Eberron and the shades of grey approach to religion and government therein, I actually quite like the division within the worship of Sarenrae.


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By alignment, since all the cool kids are doing it:

Lawful Good: Erastil.

Neutral Good: Still Shelyn.

Chaotic Good: Still Desna.

Lawful Neutral: Alseta

Neutral: Pharasma.

Chaotic Neutral: Yog-Sothoth

Lawful Evil: This is a tough one 'cause I love most of Pathfinder's Lawful Evil... I'll say Moloch, by a nose.

Neutral Evil: Charon, with nods to the other Horsemen.

Chaotic Evil: Lamashtu. The Mother of Monsters rocks.


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Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Abadar because the god of wealth is perfect for any PC/murderhobo/mercenary
Those who obtain it by lawful means, at least.

Law is relative.


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Abadar because the god of wealth is perfect for any PC/murderhobo/mercenary
Those who obtain it by lawful means, at least.
Law is relative.

Wasn't that the tagline for My Cousin Vinnie?


Tableflip McRagequit wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Abadar because the god of wealth is perfect for any PC/murderhobo/mercenary
Those who obtain it by lawful means, at least.
Law is relative.
Wasn't that the tagline for My Cousin Vinnie?

lol probably


Erastil, he's a sweetie. Also like the animal domain and the whole community / family roleplay.

Shelyn and Calistria seem interesting too.


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Favorite Good: Sarenrae gets my vote here because she's trying. She has swat at her followers before, and promised to never do so again. Now once again the children are misbehaving but she is trying anything but hitting them with the switch again.

Favorite Neutral: Aroden. While the mystery is annoying, his actions and portfolio basically speak to every player who ever wanted his PC to gain deific power.

Favorite Evil: Gonna cheat here and give it to both Urgathoa and Zyphus. The Goddess of the undead is a delightful change from the old-musty god-lich I was expecting, and the fact that the creation of the undead basically came about because a princess didn't want to stop partying is hilarious. Zyphus while looking like a typical Grim Reaper death god, is simply the cosmic result of what happens when your GM says, "Rocks fall, you die." You begin reading all the books and plan your own campaign. Zyphus is just crafting a Campaign full of nasty traps and pitfalls for the day he can sit down at the head of the table and tell Pharasma, "Make a Perception check."


Lawful Good: A tie with Damerrich and Lymnieris. The fact that capital punishment and prostitution can be represented as LG is neat and innovative. Good work, Paizo.

Neutral Good: Sarenrae. Honestly, I just picked because her Paladin wasn't as bad I thought it would be and that her followers look awesome wearing blue, white and gold.

Chaotic Good: My main man Cayden Cailean is taking back the word bro from jerk fratboys one most excellent act after another. I'm not even much a fan of alcohol, but this guy just sounds awesome to me. He's the god of having a good time with your friends. Who could hate that?

Lawful Neutral: Irori, I suppose. I think he's more Neutral than Lawful Neutral, but regardless I find his goal of self-perfection to be pretty inspiring.

Neutral: Nethys. The conflicting desire to utterly destroy and create is something I get definitely resonate with. Furthermore, magic gods are always fun and weird. Especially the insane ones.

Chaotic Neutral: Calistria. Sex, revenge, trickery. If she only lost the wasp fetish she'd be perfect.

Lawful Evil: Asmodeus. His origin mythos is incredible and tragic, with his desire to destroy free will being strangely sympathetic. Also, who doesn't want to rule the world?

Neutral Evil: Urgathoa is barely even evil in my book. Yeah, yeah, she's kind of a creepy glutton who creates a bunch of undead monsters, but Pharasma is a judgemental bigot who probably drove her to it in the first place.

Chaotic Evil: Rovagug. I like any god's whose dogma can be summed up as maim, kill, burn.


I want to be cool, so I'm going with alignment.

Lawful Good - Wadjet, because serpents aren't always evil

Chaotic Good - Desna - my all time favorite deity of any game pantheon.

Neutral Good - Sarenrae, a sun goddess that isn't a wimp (I'm looking at you, Lathendar!)

Lawful Neutral - Anubis, love what pathfinder has done with the Egyptian pantheon.

Neutral - Pharasma, she looks cool, lives in a place called The Boneyard, and has the coolest outsiders serving her.

Chaotic Neutral - Sobek and Sekhmet, couldn't decide between them, Gorum wishes he was half as awesome as one of these deities. They get mad bonus points for not being evil.

Lawful Evil - Geryon, seriously, everyone must read Wes Schneider's articles on the devils in Hell's Rebels and Hell's Vengeance.

Neutral Evil - Set, the cool Lord of murders, isn't worried about who knows his name.

Chaotic Evil - Hastur, does the Norgorber bit, except better.


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Lawful Good- Iomadae. She's hardcore, and is willing to do what it takes. Sure she's super strict but that is exactly what gives her the discipline to lead crusades.

Neutral Good- Who can say no to Shelyn? Wonderful story and dynamic with Zon-Kuthon. Especially the fact that she took the glaive and remains pure.

Chaotic Good- One of my least favorite alignments... Though I'll go with Cayden Cailen for the ascension story.

Lwful Neutral- Imbrex. Not a lot is known about them, but I like the portfolios and the uniqueness.

True Neutral- Pharasma. Classic archetype of fate, and death. Not biased in any way, but not exactly a judge either. Special.

Chaotic Neutral- Gorum. Good way of fighting for fighting's sake.

Lawful Evil- Asmodeus. The classic archetype of the all-powerful corruptor, and I love that he was the only one who could be trusted with Rovagug's key.

Neutral Evil- Norgorber. I get it's awkward to say, but he is an assassin god, and the only evil one to pass the test of the starstone. There's a bit of mystery around him, but I think he embodies his alignment quite well.

Chaotic Evil- Cthulhu. 'Nuff said.

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One thing that's usually not mentioned about Norgorber is that he's the only evil god who offers something resembling a half-decent afterlife (be a mobster in Axiom (that last part is cause for concern, though)).


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Rovagug, because I'm a nihilistic hate monkey deep down inside.

Cayden Cailean, because who doesn't want to get drunk one night and wake up a God?

Groetus, because I loved playing a bard who only knew how to play "Bad Moon Rising" by CCR.

The Goblin Hero-Gods, because sometimes chaotic stupid is just plain FUN.


It may be a bit off the beaten path, but I'm fond of Ashava and Jezelda.

Jezelda is the kick-ass Queen B@#@$# of the Werewolves. She takes what she wants, slaughtering anyone who gets in her way (or looks tasty). She makes the dark of night a place of terror that only grows worse when baleful rays of the moon lighten it and release the vicious beasts within the neighbors you thought you knew.

Ashava may be more interested in laying lost souls to rest, but she takes time out to care for the good-aligned lycanthropes. She wants the night to be a place of peace, and the rays of the moon to be a kindly, pure light that reveals the clear, welcoming path back home.

They share aspects of their portfolios (moonlight, the moon) and worshippers (lycanthropes, evil for Jezelda and good for Ashava), but have sharply opposing moral views. That makes for conflict, which makes for good story opportunities.


Mangenorn wrote:
One thing that's usually not mentioned about Norgorber is that he's the only evil god who offers something resembling a half-decent afterlife (be a mobster in Axiom (that last part is cause for concern, though)).

Never got why evil gods offer that kind of afterlife. Why would you follow them? And lets assume that assassin with knowledge religion -2 does, what are their clerics thinking? Can't be that naive.

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Alni wrote:
Mangenorn wrote:
One thing that's usually not mentioned about Norgorber is that he's the only evil god who offers something resembling a half-decent afterlife (be a mobster in Axiom (that last part is cause for concern, though)).
Never got why evil gods offer that kind of afterlife. Why would you follow them? And lets assume that assassin with knowledge religion -2 does, what are their clerics thinking? Can't be that naive.

Well, it's power now, and pay later.

Except, the evil afterlife won't be bad for *you*, because you're powerful and will carve out a place for yourself by your deity's side. You'll be at the top of the heap and it will be awesome. It's just the chumps and weaklings who will have to suffer.

And by the time that you find out that you are actually one of those chimps and weaklings, it is far too late.


pH unbalanced wrote:
Alni wrote:
Mangenorn wrote:
One thing that's usually not mentioned about Norgorber is that he's the only evil god who offers something resembling a half-decent afterlife (be a mobster in Axiom (that last part is cause for concern, though)).
Never got why evil gods offer that kind of afterlife. Why would you follow them? And lets assume that assassin with knowledge religion -2 does, what are their clerics thinking? Can't be that naive.

Well, it's power now, and pay later.

Except, the evil afterlife won't be bad for *you*, because you're powerful and will carve out a place for yourself by your deity's side. You'll be at the top of the heap and it will be awesome. It's just the chumps and weaklings who will have to suffer.

And by the time that you find out that you are actually one of those chimps and weaklings, it is far too late.

But... but... speak to the dead! Theres a spell! Just ask High Priest you just killed where he is now! Get your facts right! Youre a cleric!


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Alni wrote:
pH unbalanced wrote:
Alni wrote:
Mangenorn wrote:
One thing that's usually not mentioned about Norgorber is that he's the only evil god who offers something resembling a half-decent afterlife (be a mobster in Axiom (that last part is cause for concern, though)).
Never got why evil gods offer that kind of afterlife. Why would you follow them? And lets assume that assassin with knowledge religion -2 does, what are their clerics thinking? Can't be that naive.

Well, it's power now, and pay later.

Except, the evil afterlife won't be bad for *you*, because you're powerful and will carve out a place for yourself by your deity's side. You'll be at the top of the heap and it will be awesome. It's just the chumps and weaklings who will have to suffer.

And by the time that you find out that you are actually one of those chimps and weaklings, it is far too late.

But... but... speak to the dead! Theres a spell! Just ask High Priest you just killed where he is now! Get your facts right! Youre a cleric!

If you just killed him, more than likely his response is going to be either "On line in the Boneyard" or "Up yours buddy,"


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Alni wrote:


But... but... speak to the dead! Theres a spell! Just ask High Priest you just killed where he is now! Get your facts right! Youre a cleric!

Speak With Dead doesn't get you answer from the soul, it just empowers the body to answer things it knew in life.


Pedantry Police wrote:
Alni wrote:


But... but... speak to the dead! Theres a spell! Just ask High Priest you just killed where he is now! Get your facts right! Youre a cleric!
Speak With Dead doesn't get you answer from the soul, it just empowers the body to answer things it knew in life.

A visit to Hell then? Just to check where your buddies are? It's just another plane after all...

... and back on topic not to derail the thread

I like Abadar and the idea of his church being actually a bank.

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I'll break mine down into a few pantheons.

Core:

Gorum is my fave. He's a more dangerous Kurgess, who thrives on conflict. His church services are accompanied by improvised percussion. And what is under all that armor?

Other:

Alseta. I just really like her portfolio of doors and transitions. Her connection with elf gates is a plus.

Ancient Egypt:

Osiris. Mostly from memories of playing that Cleopatra game

Tian Xia:

Tsukiyo. Jade, the moon, and spirits are all cool things. Law and Madness together is interesting.

Dwarven:

Dranngvit. Debt and vengeance are difficult to balance.

Eldest:

Ng. I just like this enigmatic version of a traveler's deity.


KingOfAnything wrote:

I'll break mine down into a few pantheons.

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Alseta is a very interesting godess, but couldn't find much on her :(


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KingOfAnything wrote:
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The fleshed-out Ng writeup definitely gives me a better guy for enigmatic wanderers than Desna.


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Alni wrote:


Alseta is a very interesting godess, but couldn't find much on her :(

She has several pages in Inner Sea Faiths.


Plausible Pseudonym wrote:
Alni wrote:


Alseta is a very interesting godess, but couldn't find much on her :(
She has several pages in Inner Sea Faiths.

Thanks!


TOP 10 GODS:
Achaekek
Abadar
Apsu
Aroden
Dahak
Desna
Groetus
Iomedae
Nyarlathotep
Rovagug

TOP 10 DEMIGODS:
Black Butterfly
Charon
Cyth-V'sug
Geryon
Kelizandri
Nocticula
Pazuzu
Ragathiel
Shyka
Szuriel


Shelyn, because I like the concept, the lore, everything.

Groetus, because I like the idea of an impartial observer waiting for the clock to hit zero. Also because the most fun I've had with a Cleric was with him as a patron deity.

Kurgess, because he's sort of like Hercules without all the bad baggage.


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I'm gonna go say Erastril is one of my fave deities. The fact he's basically a combination of Ma and Pa Kent and Clint Eastwood from Gran Turino is just endearing to me. Shame it's hard to make PCs of him since he promotes fairly static characters.


Tempus and Kelemvor. In Golarion, Cayden.


Abadar, Iomedae, Pharasma, Zon-Kuthon, Desna, Urgathoa, & Sarenrae all confirmed for Starfinder, so yay/not yay, depending on your point of view.


Malefactor wrote:
Abadar, Iomedae, Pharasma, Zon-Kuthon, Desna, Urgathoa, & Sarenrae all confirmed for Starfinder, so yay/not yay, depending on your point of view.

Where is this? Could you link it?

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