Mounted charging, with greater trip: how to handle the AoO


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Shadow Lodge

So, something I'm looking at, that I'm not sure how it resolves. I'm on an axebeak and wielding a lance (so we both have 10' reach). We charge, and it gets a free trip attempt if it hits. I let it attack first, cause my lance vs prone is a nice bonus.

Now, I'm considering giving the axebeak the Dirty Fighting/Improved Trip/Greater Trip feat chain. The question is how to handle the AoO that provokes from Greater Trip. The target IS in range of my lance, but I still haven't made my lance charge attack. What do I use for the riders AoO?


As in does it get the bonus +2 to hit from charge and the damage multiplier? No, it doesn't.

Shadow Lodge

Visualizing things, I don't see how it would even get the AoO, but the rules seem to allow it. But I think you're right on not getting the damage multiplier.


how your axebeak got expertise? how did he posses int of 13??


Axebeaks get a free trip attack like wolves, but only on a charge.


RevusHarkings wrote:
Axebeaks get a free trip attack like wolves, but only on a charge.

true, but the CANT learn imptove trip or greater without expertise.

and cant learn expertise without int of min 13....

so, how?

Scarab Sages

I personally wouldn't even give you prone bonuses on that lance attack. In theory your attack and the Axebeaks happen simultaniously at tyhe end of the charge. I you wait (aka intentionally hold back your at the end of your charge) on executing your charge attack until after the Axebeak has tripped the opponent, you've lost your momentum, which is what gives you the bonuses, as per the current charge/pounce FAQ.

Grand Lodge

666bender wrote:
RevusHarkings wrote:
Axebeaks get a free trip attack like wolves, but only on a charge.

true, but the CANT learn imptove trip or greater without expertise.

and cant learn expertise without int of min 13....

so, how?

It's already been stated how.

thistledown wrote:
Dirty Fighting/Improved Trip/Greater Trip feat chain

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