CON Based Caster Class?

[Azten]

Yeah, can't have some silly martial class picking from a rather specific set of spells and spending resources for it. XD

[cuatroespada]

absolutely not! what if they got good at something!? martials can't have nice things! only casters that aren't blaster masters.

[alexander leah]

cartmanbeck wrote:

Here's the preliminary guide that I've put together. Still need to work on build details, but I've pointed out a few ways of getting off the ground with the build and rated each of the Item Mastery feats.

Cartmanbeck's Guide to the Iron Caster

Please give me feedback on what else you'd like to see in the guide! I'm gonna work on a suggested build now.

I cant acces the guide yet, but as a general suggestion you may give credit to https://m.reddit.com/u/TristanTheViking that is the one that posted the build for firstt in reddit

[TristanTheViking]

alexander leah wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Here's the preliminary guide that I've put together. Still need to work on build details, but I've pointed out a few ways of getting off the ground with the build and rated each of the Item Mastery feats.

Cartmanbeck's Guide to the Iron Caster

Please give me feedback on what else you'd like to see in the guide! I'm gonna work on a suggested build now.

I cant acces the guide yet, but as a general suggestion you may give credit to https://m.reddit.com/u/TristanTheViking that is the one that posted the build for firstt in reddit

Here's the original post. Contains some more discussion about the idea.

I am ridiculously pleased that my idea made it onto the paizo forums and is getting a guide/handbook thing. I was honestly expecting the response to be "Nope, doesn't work because of some very obvious reason."

[TristanTheViking]

cartmanbeck wrote:

ANOTHER EDIT: I'd also be interested in any Paizo-legal way for a Fighter to get Martial Flexibility WITHOUT trading out weapon training. I've only found two archetypes that give Martial Flexibility, the Martial Master and the Free-Style Fighter, and they both give up weapon training.

Combat Stamina lets you use Barroom Brawler as a swift action. Costs another feat, but Combat Stamina is worth it anyway. It's not quite Martial Flexibility, but it's as close as you can get without losing weapon training or multiclassing.

[Ellioti]

Might as well get Eldritch heritage (Serpentine) with all that CON and some CHA.

[cartmanbeck]

alexander leah wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Here's the preliminary guide that I've put together. Still need to work on build details, but I've pointed out a few ways of getting off the ground with the build and rated each of the Item Mastery feats.

Cartmanbeck's Guide to the Iron Caster

Please give me feedback on what else you'd like to see in the guide! I'm gonna work on a suggested build now.

I cant acces the guide yet, but as a general suggestion you may give credit to https://m.reddit.com/u/TristanTheViking that is the one that posted the build for firstt in reddit

Access should be fixed now. Sorry about that.

[cartmanbeck]

TristanTheViking wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

ANOTHER EDIT: I'd also be interested in any Paizo-legal way for a Fighter to get Martial Flexibility WITHOUT trading out weapon training. I've only found two archetypes that give Martial Flexibility, the Martial Master and the Free-Style Fighter, and they both give up weapon training.

Combat Stamina lets you use Barroom Brawler as a swift action. Costs another feat, but Combat Stamina is worth it anyway. It's not quite Martial Flexibility, but it's as close as you can get without losing weapon training or multiclassing.

I know nothing about the Stamina system, but that is VERY interesting. So that lets you do all this without a single Brawler level. Very nice!

I'll have to put in a specific section about that as a build option for those with access to the Stamina system. Unfortunately, PFS doesn't include this system.

[cartmanbeck]

TristanTheViking wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

ANOTHER EDIT: I'd also be interested in any Paizo-legal way for a Fighter to get Martial Flexibility WITHOUT trading out weapon training. I've only found two archetypes that give Martial Flexibility, the Martial Master and the Free-Style Fighter, and they both give up weapon training.

Combat Stamina lets you use Barroom Brawler as a swift action. Costs another feat, but Combat Stamina is worth it anyway. It's not quite Martial Flexibility, but it's as close as you can get without losing weapon training or multiclassing.

Question for you, Tristan. What is this quote about in your reddit post? " Just don't take Advanced Weapon Training as a normal feat, or you won't be able to flex it with Barroom Brawler."

Since you can take the feat more than once, a Weapon Master should be able to take it with a bonus feat and still flex it using Barroom Brawler or Martial Flexibility, right?

[TristanTheViking]

cartmanbeck wrote:

Question for you, Tristan. What is this quote about in your reddit post? " Just don't take Advanced Weapon Training as a normal feat, or you won't be able to flex it with Barroom Brawler."
Since you can take the feat more than once, a Weapon Master should be able to take it with a bonus feat and still flex it using Barroom Brawler or Martial Flexibility, right?

You can only take AWT once per five Fighter levels. Weapon Master gets around this only when taking the AWT feats as Fighter bonus feats, so if you take it as a regular feat, you lose the ability to martial flex it until you've got another five Fighter levels.

Though I guess you could argue that since the wording is that you just gain the benefit of the feat instead of actually getting the feat itself, it could work.

[coldhotshot]

I just want to say that this is a crazy idea that I like, will definitely borrow for my half elf high con fighter. Had no clue what to do with him until I saw this.