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I'm uncertain if a trap the soul spell would be impeded or otherwise affected if you cast it on the astral body of someone using an astral projection spell.
Mainly, this is because trap the soul says that it also pulls your physical body into the gem, but in this case your physical body is presumably on another plane, far outside of the spell's range. In that case, what happens? Does your original body get pulled in even though it's on another plane? If not, does the spell work on your soul/astral body? What if your original body dies after you've been trapped?
If the physical body is not present,then Trap The Soul simply fails to work.
Astral Projection wrote: To enter one, you leave the Astral Plane, forming a new physical body (and equipment) on the plane of existence you have chosen to enter. You do, in fact, occupy a physical body while using Astral Projection to enter another plane.
Trap the Soul is one of the few ways to stop a high level wizard meddling with the world from the safety of his personal demi-plane.
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Snowlilly wrote: Astral Projection wrote: To enter one, you leave the Astral Plane, forming a new physical body (and equipment) on the plane of existence you have chosen to enter. You do, in fact, occupy a physical body while using Astral Projection to enter another plane.
Trap the Soul is one of the few ways to stop a high level wizard meddling with the world from the safety of his personal demi-plane. By that virtue, a temporal stasis, imprisonment, or even flesh to stone would also work, right?
Snowlilly wrote: Astral Projection wrote: To enter one, you leave the Astral Plane, forming a new physical body (and equipment) on the plane of existence you have chosen to enter. You do, in fact, occupy a physical body while using Astral Projection to enter another plane.
Trap the Soul is one of the few ways to stop a high level wizard meddling with the world from the safety of his personal demi-plane.
I kind of thought the original question was about the floaty version in the astral plane, not the meaty copy on another plane. So, if I'm in the astral, what happens?
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Tacticslion wrote: Snowlilly wrote: Astral Projection wrote: To enter one, you leave the Astral Plane, forming a new physical body (and equipment) on the plane of existence you have chosen to enter. You do, in fact, occupy a physical body while using Astral Projection to enter another plane.
Trap the Soul is one of the few ways to stop a high level wizard meddling with the world from the safety of his personal demi-plane.
I kind of thought the original question was about the floaty version in the astral plane, not the meaty copy on another plane. So, if I'm in the astral, what happens? Sorry, that was me being unclear. I was referring to what happens when someone using astral projection exits the Astral Plane and goes to another plane (where they form a new body), since that's 90% likely where you'd find someone using that spell anyway.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks! In which case: yeah, I could see the, "they're trapped" interpretation from that by way of requiring a body they have.
That said, I'm not in a place where I can think a lot to make any solid argument one way or the other. My gut tends to suggest I lean toward the, "they don't need a body, look at the name" but my gut also warns against making a specific effect too powerful by overreach. I guess you could say I'm of two guts on the matter. Reference!
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