Party face martial that isn't a paladin

[Char-Gen addict]

No, not me.

[Atarlost]

Cockatrice is another good cavalier order. At level 2 they get standard action dazzling display without requiring a specific weapon in hand. Having a move action to get into position to catch more enemies in your display makes the ability a lot better.

[lemeres]

Char-Gen addict wrote:

No, not me.

...and I weep for my 7 samurai reference falling flat.

But alas, I knew the risk with that statement. But I couldn't include more without ruining the joke.

[ChaosTicket]

lemeres wrote:

Anyway, slayers can do alright, and don't need the cha to do it. Their studied target can be used discretely and infinitely, and gives bonuses (+1-+5) to bluff and sense motive from the get go. Later, it gives bonuses to disguise and intimidate. Not the friendliest set of skills, but it has enough uses in social interactions (...I am pretty sure it is every social skill OTHER than diplomacy). So no reason not to pop studied target on whoever you are trying to speak to.

Agreed, but also remember Slayer has alot of skill points, so can keep your Face skills maxed out without much trouble.

Class skills are big early on, but thats only a +3 skill to that particular skill.