Probably there is just ONE lawful good Vulcan in the galaxyI'm fine with Vulcans being Lawful, but Good? *Most illogical.*I'd say Vulcans, but we already have Elves.Lawful Good elves? Fascinating...
How about these?
Vulcans do have the usual stuck up sense of superior attitude that's expected from elves though.And their culture is at least leaning towards good. Vulcans have a strong sense of family values and pretty much don't have anything that Erastil would disapprove of.
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A list if templates would be nice.such as "artic world" or "megacity world".
Then you could slap that into whatever race.so you could have artic world elves, human, lashunta, Ratfolk...
Probably there is just ONE lawful good Vulcan in the galaxy
I'm fine with Vulcans being Lawful, but Good? *Most illogical.*
He's actually half-Vulcan.
I just finished reading The Black Cloud. Not sure if such a thing gets a stat block that easily, but...
There are plenty of alien species out they're, both sentient and not. Which classics would you like to see done up in starfinder? Obviously most are copyrighted, but seeing something with a similar concept could be fun. Personally, I'm hoping for stats for creatures based on:
Xenomorphs/facehuggers/chestbusters
Tribbles
Wookies
Little green men (playable?)
ET style aliens
Some version of the borg,but more organic
Cybertronians
The creature from Species (space succubus. Cause why not)
The glorf from Megas Xlr
Puppeteers, Kzinti, Jotoki, Kdatlyno, & Outsiders - all from Larry Niven's Known Space setting. He would likely be fine with them being used.
Kasatha don't really scratch the insectoid alien niche. They have four arms but don't really have any other insectoid traits, like the Thri Keen
They are however four armed humanoids, who have a huge bonus to jump, specialize in bone weapons, and live in a desert environment.
Puppeteers, Kzinti, Jotoki, Kdatlyno, & Outsiders - all from Larry Niven's Known Space setting. He would likely be fine with them being used.
What the scenario assumes: Puppeteer hacker. Kzin pilot/armsman. Jotoki tech. Kdatlyno melee specialist. Grog telepath (in a wheelbarrow/hoverplate). Pak protector big bad. Needs Map Pack: Ringworld.
What the players brought: Puppeteer bloodrager. Kzin broodmaster summoner. Jotoki swashbuckler. Kdatlyno sniper. Grog pilot. Could be awesome. Plz ban conversion weapons and reserve thrint/tnuctip for boon races only.| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I'm fine with Vulcans being Lawful, but Good? *Most illogical.*
Not at all. Vulcans are bound by logic but not by rote rule or absolute adherence to rules, after all rules are there to facilitate an organized and prosperous society but if a rule itself causes issues then it's existence becomes an impediment and logic would dictate it be reexamined, reevaluated and changed as need. They have used logic to define life as precious and beautiful and that, for example, murder and unnecessary violence is wrong and evil.
Vulcans absolutely pursue the tenets of Law and Good, they just do it with strict control on their emotions. They will come to foundering starships to provide aid, have many institutions to provide relief in the case of disaster of almost any scale, value family, their ancestors, society which promotes positive interaction and protects the weak and sick.
If you actually know anything about the Vulcan races history and outlook as written by Roddenberry and compare their beliefs to the lawful good alignment they support every single point with their entire society. They just persue it differently than emotional races do.
Living by logic in no way means absolute adherence to stricture and regulation with no flexibility, which is much closer to lawful neutral.
They are lawful good with a heavy does of lawful and a very minimal does of emotion but good is definitely their belief system and they back up that belief with pretty irrefutable logical proofs.
We already have numerous UFO lore references in Bestiary 5 which I would not mind seeing continue but I am hoping for original stuff as well. I too would love to see a line of humanoid, humanized animal species but that list could be exhaustive. I know from my own work and I concentrate only on mammals, reptiles and amphibians. Although that said I am supporting this as much as possible.
How about some non humanoid aliens. Centaur likes or bilateral oriented but octo-limbed aliens with no real front or back side? Basically 4 limbs on each side of a sausage shaped body with sensor organs on the body. They can use any 4 limbs at once for locomotion and 4 any other 4 limbs as 'hands' as needed.
How about some non humanoid aliens. Centaur likes or bilateral oriented but octo-limbed aliens with no real front or back side? Basically 4 limbs on each side of a sausage shaped body with sensor organs on the body. They can use any 4 limbs at once for locomotion and 4 any other 4 limbs as 'hands' as needed.
I made an aberration PC race with 8 limbs. It had a speed of 5 feet per limb used for locomotion, and could combine 2 limbs to make a "hand" for weapons. (1 for light, 2 for 1-handed, 4 for 2-handed).
Sorry if I'm repeating, but I would love to see a Vermin race. In Sci Fi they're pretty popular and I really love arthropods.
I guess we'll see Reptoids.
The Hive from Horror Adventures. They're basically Xenomorphs that reproduce through larvae swarms instead of facehuggers.
just a few, but I'm not keeping my hopes up on these...
-the Hutts
-The alien from the thing, with stats for each version seen in the 1984 version
-The Aliens from They Live
-Daleks (without the mechanical shell)
-the Pod People
- Ro-Man from Robot Monster
-The Martians from War of the Worlds (H.G. Wells)
-Metaluna Aliens (this Island Earth)
-Triffids
-those creepy spider things from the movie lost in space
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Do people really believe Starfinder is going to have licensed aliens?
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Do people really believe Starfinder is going to have licensed aliens?
I think they really believe they can get something really similar. Like 5 giant robot tigers that combine to form a super robot that fights Beast-Bots.
No, Umbral Reaver, I do not believe we will see them.
But I can still pretend I have a chance of having mighty Jabba sacrificing a puny Golarion native to his colossal advanced dust digger. Besides, If I went through the trouble of digging up all of the Short Stories and Novels I'd have to read just to post a legitimate list of public domain aliens, races, and Sci-Fi Monsters, you'd all hate me. And it does say "Classic Aliens". (pardon my grammar)
realistically, I'd say give these authors a look, their much easier to find and far cheaper to include in a role-playing game (most are public domain, but Ray's a classic:
-Avram Davidson (the collection Or All the Seas With Oysters)
-Ray Bradbury (just everything, really)
-Edgar Rice Burroughs (Barsoom)
-Donald A. Wolheim (Mimic)
-Margaret St. Clair (the Best Of. specifically Prott, The Pillows, The Dancers of Noyo, Idris' Pig, and the man who Sold Rope to the Gnoles)
-Arthur C. Clarke Might also be of Some Interest (2001: a space Odyssey, its sequels, and A Walk in the Dark)
-Gerald Kersh (Men without Bones)
-Jack Finney (the Body Snatchers (1955)
-John Wyndham (the day of the Triffids, the Midwich Cuckoos, the Chrysalids)
-William Hope Hodsgon (the Night Land)
-H.G. Wells (first men in the Moon, War of the Worlds)
-Douglas Adams (the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which I would be sacrilegious not to mention)
As for the Thing, it's debatable whether or not it was original to the silver screen (John W. Campbell's Who Goes there, or Thorp McClusky's The Crawling Horror, and H.P. Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness all centered around a nameless horror spreading paranoia as it killed in a harsh environment all published within a five year period, not to mention the several movies based on one or the other of the stories)
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CJ Cherryh has like 60 or 70 novels out.
She has eusocial centipede/insect-like aliens (Serpent's Reach), amphibious dinosaurs (40,000 in Gehenna), 8 foot tall humans with VERY different social emotions (the atevi from the Foreigner series), psychic wildlife and bacon-loving nighthorses (Rider at the Gate), and tons more.
the blob?
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No, Umbral Reaver, I do not believe we will see them.
But I can still pretend I have a chance of having mighty Jabba sacrificing a puny Golarion native to his colossal advanced dust digger. Besides, If I went through the trouble of digging up all of the Short Stories and Novels I'd have to read just to post a legitimate list of public domain aliens, races, and Sci-Fi Monsters, you'd all hate me. And it does say "Classic Aliens". (pardon my grammar)realistically, I'd say give these authors a look, their much easier to find and far cheaper to include in a role-playing game (most are public domain, but Ray's a classic:
-Avram Davidson (the collection Or All the Seas With Oysters)
-Ray Bradbury (just everything, really)
-Edgar Rice Burroughs (Barsoom)
-Donald A. Wolheim (Mimic)
-Margaret St. Clair (the Best Of. specifically Prott, The Pillows, The Dancers of Noyo, Idris' Pig, and the man who Sold Rope to the Gnoles)
-Arthur C. Clarke Might also be of Some Interest (2001: a space Odyssey, its sequels, and A Walk in the Dark)
-Gerald Kersh (Men without Bones)
-Jack Finney (the Body Snatchers (1955)
-John Wyndham (the day of the Triffids, the Midwich Cuckoos, the Chrysalids)
-William Hope Hodsgon (the Night Land)
-H.G. Wells (first men in the Moon, War of the Worlds)
-Douglas Adams (the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which I would be sacrilegious not to mention)As for the Thing, it's debatable whether or not it was original to the silver screen (John W. Campbell's Who Goes there, or Thorp McClusky's The Crawling Horror, and H.P. Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness all centered around a nameless horror spreading paranoia as it killed in a harsh environment all published within a five year period, not to mention the several movies based on one or the other of the stories)
To add to the list:
Orson Scott Card (Ender's Game)You also forgot Robert A Hienlein's classic Starship Troopers.
Do people really believe Starfinder is going to have licensed aliens?
No, but it's fun to speculate.
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the blob?
What do you think pretty much all jelly, slime and pudding creatures out there were based on?
Or did you mean more like the Dralasites from old Star Frontiers? Loved them.
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An Incorporeal Race
A race with Powerful Build
Though I don't want to be so overflowing with races that never get any attention. That's part of the problem I have with Golarion. Catfolk, Vanara, Oreads, etc pretty much never get any attention besides the occasional throwaway NPC. Hell, even Dwarves and Gnomes don't get much love.
Do people really believe Starfinder is going to have licensed aliens?No, but it's fun to speculate.
Create a society of lawful elves with the usual elven haughtiness and you have Vulcans in everything but name.
Elves have always seemed lawful and dwarves have always seemed chaotic to me.
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Introduce a race of aliens whose alignment chart includes 'Blue' and 'Orange'. The normal concepts of alignment just don't work with their mindset.
Introduce a race of aliens whose alignment chart includes 'Blue' and 'Orange'. The normal concepts of alignment just don't work with their mindset.
Alignment is objective in the pathfinder universe, how they see morality is irrelevant, the upper planes will still judge them on their actions.
quick question, would Pathfinder's Dominion of the Black still be alive and kicking all these millennia later
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The Dominion of the Black is old. A few millennia wouldn't slow them down much.
Elves have always seemed lawful and dwarves have always seemed chaotic to me.That might come from the old notion of Law being equated with Good. In Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda (c. 1220), which supposedly relates Norse mythology but is probably influenced by Christian beliefs of the time, elves parallel angels. Dwarves are the same as "dark elves" in Sturluson's work, which parallel Christian demons. Hence, dwarves being the Bad Race while elves being the Good Race is a fairly old concept. OD&D essentially equated good-ness with lawful-ness and chaos with evil, so elves coming accross as lawful in D&D makes a certain degree of sense.
Nope.
I meant D&D dwarves and elves.
Elves always seem to be very strict and stuck in their ways and holding traditional values. Dwarves often seem very fun loving and independent spirited, even if they give lip service to traditional values.
Nope.
I meant D&D dwarves and elves.
Elves always seem to be very strict and stuck in their ways and holding traditional values. Dwarves often seem very fun loving and independent spirited, even if they give lip service to traditional values.
On the other hand, most D&D-style elves traipse about the woodlands writing poetry singing songs, and letting one another more or less alone except in time of war, whereas most D&D-style dwarves are clan-based workaholics who take breaks from working to sing songs about fighting before going back to toiling in the exact same forge their seventy-seven times great-grandfather did.
I have seen very few dwarves in this particular subgenre who I'd call "independent spirited." From the mostly interchangeable family members of The Hobbit to Bruenor "let's get back that old mine we got booted out of years ago in a story that in no way resembles The Hobbit," Dwarves seem to have just as much trouble letting things go as the most stubborn elf.
tl;dr? They both have a lot of lawful traits, and being lawful does not preclude liking a good time.
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Introduce a race of aliens whose alignment chart includes 'Blue' and 'Orange'. The normal concepts of alignment just don't work with their mindset.
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I would like to see a proper weird alien like the Amnion from the gap series by Stephen Donaldson.
Sometimes the greatest aliens come not from space, but from below the earth
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Introduce a race of aliens whose alignment chart includes 'Blue' and 'Orange'. The normal concepts of alignment just don't work with their mindset.
Orange will deport ALL blue aliens! Orange will implement EXTREME vetting to make sure no Blue aliens enter Orange country!
in the niche of insectoids...
Mantisfolk (except with a cooler name) as both Star Wars and Star Trek have Mantislike Races.
Also, a parasitic race similar to the Goa'Uld would be nice
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Playable swarms?
Or small groups of creatures that share a single mind (and presumably has only a single standard action amongst them, if the move/standard system is still in effect).
Seeing as the Bestiary 6 is coming out shortly before starfinder, yaddithians. They're the perfect race to be incredibly alien and possibly tied to the Dominions of the Black.
Not a classic, since I haven't seen an example, but how about a hive mind species that ISN'T necessarily Evil? (May be more than one hive mind, not all of the same alignment.)
Seeing as the Bestiary 6 is coming out shortly before starfinder, yaddithians. They're the perfect race to be incredibly alien and possibly tied to the Dominion of the Black.
I doubt that they'll be tied to the Dominion of the Black. Just a hunch.
Incredibly alien, though... that's a real possibility. ^_^
As much as i LOVE aliens like Metroids and Xenomorphs I'd have to say that I hope none of them make it into the game. Maybe getting inspiration and building their own monsters, but really the less monsters carrying over the better. Besides, GMs can always make their own monsters, no need for Paizo to add them in.