Is Mutation = Polymorph?


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I'm wondering if mutation is considered to be a polymorphic effect.

Specifically i'm asking about the case wherein a Kitsune Mutation Mind (Psychic) uses their Physical Mutation ability while under the effects of their Change Shape / Fox Shape racial ability (but I'm sure there are plenty of other cases).

Does the Kitsune become a mutated version of their Human or Fox shape or are they reverted to their natural form every time they mutate (per the limitation of 1 polymorph effect at a time)?

Physical Mutation(SU):
A mutation mind's psychic powers warp her body, allowing her to physically mutate herself as a swift action, which grants her a +4 enhancement bonus to Strength and a –2 penalty to Intelligence. At 12th level, the bonus to Strength increases to +6. A mutation mind can assume her physically mutated form for a number of minutes per day equal to her psychic level. The minutes don't have to be used consecutively, but must be used in 1-minute increments. When the duration runs out, the mutation mind can spend 1 point from her phrenic pool to extend the duration by 1 round. She can continue extending it in this way until she runs out of points. After the mutation ends, the mutation mind is fatigued and can't activate a physical mutation again for 1 round. Turning back to normal before the end of a 1-minute increment takes a standard action.

This ability replaces the 1st-level phrenic amplification.


Nope! It doesn't say it's one, nor does it reference a polymorph ability or spell, so you're in the clear.


thats what i thought, but i figured i'd get a second opinion on it before i start building the character. Huge Fox (well fox man anyway) natural attack monster here i come


Ridiculon wrote:
thats what i thought, but i figured i'd get a second opinion on it before i start building the character. Huge Fox (well fox man anyway) natural attack monster here i come

Just keep in mind that multiple magical effects that change your size never stack if you mean "huge" as the size category.


i know, one of the mutation mind's improved mutation modifiers is as enlarge person but boosts you 2 sizes

EDIT: i was just curious about the effect overlap, it seems like a race with bonus str would be a better fit for the concept though


Oh hey, come to think of it what would the interaction be if that modifier is included in the physical mutation ability?

since it works as enlarge person does that mean the ability gets put on the polymorph list?

EDIT: actually this question just became pretty important to the build so im going to start a new thread

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