Familiar Ioun Stone


Rules Questions


My question is a two part
part one: can a familiar, with charisma 11 or higher, activate a silver spindle ioun stone.
I know that familiars can have ioun stones circle them, and that contiunius effects do work on them, but is activating a silver spindle too close to using a wand?

part two: assuming that the familiar can effectivly use the ioun stone, what level would it be counted as for determining caster level? is it the same as the master's level or is it 1 or something else?


why wouldn't familiars be able to use wands?

As long as they have hands to wield them, it's allowed.


sorry, i was thinking about PFS (only select improved familiars are allowed to use wands). I asked this question there and nobody knew, so i figured that i would see if its even rules legal before i ask if its PFS legal...


part 2 is easy.

CRB/familiars wrote:
Hit Dice: For the purpose of effects related to number of Hit Dice, use the master's character level or the familiar's normal HD total, whichever is higher.

not sure about part 1, I keep getting the lines blurred between ACs and familiars in PFS.


bumperino

Liberty's Edge

The ioun stone grants a spell-like ability. That is nothing like a wand. There are no 'additional requirements' for activating a SLA... if you have the ability, you can use it. It's a standard action which provokes.

That said, in order to activate the ioun stone in the first place, the familiar would have to hold and then release it... potentially impossible for some familiar types.


CBDunkerson wrote:

The ioun stone grants a spell-like ability. That is nothing like a wand. There are no 'additional requirements' for activating a SLA... if you have the ability, you can use it. It's a standard action which provokes.

That said, in order to activate the ioun stone in the first place, the familiar would have to hold and then release it... potentially impossible for some familiar types.

Couldn't the Familiars Mage just set the stone in motion around his Familiars head as long as it has an INT of 3+

The Caster Level would be the Familiars HD

And if you look up Ioun Stones and look under "Facts about Ioun Stones"
The only requirements to use one are to have an Int of 3+ and a Head for the stone to orbit. For all the game is concerned the "cat" for example could pick the stone up with it's mouth and just open wide to get it started I would say.

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