Ultimate Intrigue Bard spells without verbal components


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It's in the Bard class description that all Bard spells have verbal components, but at least three (so far) spells in Ultimate Intrigue are on the Bard list but don't have a listed verbal component, Matchmaker, Quieting Weapon, and Break Silence.

Do you just add a V component to make these work, or do you assume the later specific spell choices by the PDT override the earlier restriction on the class?

Designer

All bard spells have a V component, regardless of whether the spell usually would.


On top of that, Break Silence is pretty heavily nerfed if it gets a verbal component.

Dark Archive

Pretty sure the bard restrictions always apply, unless specifically noted otherwise.


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I'd say the Bard entry is a general thing, while the spells themselves are specific, and in this game specific usually beats general.

Sovereign Court

Mark Seifter wrote:
All bard spells have a V component, regardless of whether the spell usually would.

That's been the general rule for years, but these spells look like they were specifically intended to be quiet.

Wouldn't it make more sense to say:

"you cannot remove the V component from a bard spell (if it has one)"

instead of

"all bard spells have V components"?

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