Quick Draw Throwing weapons

[kurohyou]

The rules on drawing or sheathing a weapon on the PRD state that drawing ammunition is a free action.

Draw or Sheathe a Weapon:

Drawing a weapon so that you can use it in combat, or putting it away so that you have a free hand, requires a move action. This action also applies to weapon-like objects carried in easy reach, such as wands. If your weapon or weapon-like object is stored in a pack or otherwise out of easy reach, treat this action as retrieving a stored item.

If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you may draw a weapon as a free action combined with a regular move. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can draw two light or one-handed weapons in the time it would normally take you to draw one.

Drawing ammunition for use with a ranged weapon (such as arrows, bolts, sling bullets, or shuriken) is a free action.

This would seem to indicate that you can already throw weapons at your full BAB. Why does quick draw say that it gives you the ability to do that then?

Quick Draw (Combat):

You can draw weapons faster than most.

Prerequisite: Base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You can draw a weapon as a free action instead of as a move action. You can draw a hidden weapon (see the Sleight of Hand skill) as a move action.
A character who has selected this feat may throw weapons at his full normal rate of attacks (much like a character with a bow).
Alchemical items, potions, scrolls, and wands cannot be drawn quickly using this feat.
Normal: Without this feat, you may draw a weapon as a move action, or (if your base attack bonus is +1 or higher) as a free action as part of movement. Without this feat, you can draw a hidden weapon as a standard action.

[OldSkoolRPG]

kurohyou wrote:

The rules on drawing or sheathing a weapon on the PRD state that drawing ammunition is a free action.

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This would seem to indicate that you can already throw weapons at your full BAB. Why does quick draw say that it gives you the ability to do that then?

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You can draw ammunition as a free action. Thrown weapons are not ammunition.

I think your confusion is due to Shurikens being on the list. In Pathfinder they are treated as ammunition not thrown weapons, a fact which I really hate but that is RAW.

[JacquesUnderbottom]

While you can draw ammunition as a free action, you can't draw weapons that are thrown. Javelins, throwing axes, and throwing knives are all considered weapons, not ammunition, so you wouldn't be capable of throwing multiple knives in a round without Quick Draw.

Notice that you can only draw ammunition for use *with* a ranged weapon, not the ranged weapon itself. A throwing axe is not the ammunition for a throwing axe, it is the weapon itself.

[kurohyou]

OldSkoolRPG wrote:

kurohyou wrote:

The rules on drawing or sheathing a weapon on the PRD state that drawing ammunition is a free action.

** spoiler omitted **

This would seem to indicate that you can already throw weapons at your full BAB. Why does quick draw say that it gives you the ability to do that then?

** spoiler omitted **

You can draw ammunition as a free action. Thrown weapons are not ammunition.

I think your confusion is due to Shurikens being on the list. In Pathfinder they are treated as ammunition not thrown weapons, a fact which I really hate but that is RAW.

Thanks OldSkool. Yes I momentarily forgot that about shuriken. and that does make sense.