Draugr Energy Drain DC?


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Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

I tried a search, and while I could find the topic, I couldn't find an answer, either on the boards or the errata.

for the Draugr Captain what is the DC to resist/remove the negative level? Is it 12 like the regular Draugr's Nausea?

Shadow Lodge

It'll be 14. The DC is charisma-based, and the advanced template the captain gets gives you +4 Cha, which increases the DC by 2.


Should be 10 + 1 (1/2 HD) + 1 (Cha 13) +2 (simple advanced template) for a DC of 14 to remove but no DC for applying in the first place.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Thank you Gentlemen... would be nice if they put that in the stats. *sigh*

Liberty's Edge

Matthew Morris wrote:
Thank you Gentlemen... would be nice if they put that in the stats. *sigh*
PRD wrote:


Draugr Captain (CR 3)
...
A draugr captain is a draugr with the advanced simple template.

and

PRD wrote:


Advanced Creature (CR +1)

Creatures with the advanced template are fiercer and more powerful than their ordinary cousins.

Quick Rules: +2 on all rolls (including damage rolls) and special ability DCs; +4 to AC and CMD; +2 hp/HD.

As you need to reference the advance template to know the Draugr Captain abilities changes, I would say that it is in the rules.

It is not a very user friendly system, but it save a lot of space in the books.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Diego,

I'd agree, except that since it doesn't give an initial DC for the energy drain, it is hard to add 2 to a DC that isn't there. Really, how hard would adding (DC 12) be to the text? If it was based off of the nausea DC it would be 14 for example...


There isn't an initial DC for the energy drain. It gives a negative level, no stop, no save. You get a save after 24 hours to remove the negative level as a temporary negative level. If you fail that save then it becomes "permanent" until removed.

Energy Drain

The only time there is an initial save against energy drain is if the attack in question explicitly gives an initial save.

If the entry lists a save throw that is for the 24 hour later removal save and has no bearing on the initial damage.

Shadow Lodge

Matthew Morris wrote:
I'd agree, except that since it doesn't give an initial DC for the energy drain, it is hard to add 2 to a DC that isn't there. Really, how hard would adding (DC 12) be to the text? If it was based off of the nausea DC it would be 14 for example...

Energy replaces nausea, and since it doesn't indicate that it has a different DC (to remove the level) that means it is based on the nausea DC, including being increased by a charisma increase.

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