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It may well be that there was going to be a holdup waiting for art so putting Greg on Bards Gate then the blight has no material difference on final arrival time. I'm sure projects like this don't follow a linear development process. So it may be a choice between the blight in March 2017 and no new projects until then, or the blight in March 2017 and a trickle of other stuff too.
Track record means a lot to me. I'd back the next FGG kickstarter blind knowing how good they've been so far - the holdup with the blight barely even rates as a delay measured against most kickstarter products. It just seems slow because it's a FGG kickstarter, in my view.
CD and RA "subscription" we're similarly delayed - they kept pushing other stuff out around them and it all got to us in the end.
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Really, with the excellent 100% record I'm not worried at all. It may make more sense to the FGG schedule for them too hammer out the shorter Bard's Gate then concentrate on the massive Blight once it's done. Rather than jumping between the two. As stated I'm sure that Chuck's misfortunes have changed plans and they are juggling as best they can.
Lots of factors can influence these things, and it may all for the better. I don't know. My concern for The Blight is mostly a kneejerk reaction that Bill posted, as I have no reason to think that Frog God Games has anything but the best intentions for the project.
I do find it odd that they shuffled the cards as was indicated, but I hope and (now that I've had more time to process Bill's post in the Bard's Gate thread) believe that the decision wasn't made due to any problems with either project.
So I'm not worried, but totally support GM_Rednal. Better slower beats faster crappier every time.
This I agree with 100%. My initial concern wasn't with any indication that The Blight might be delayed. That's never bothered me.
What I think you often get from KS creators is a reluctance to post updates with no real news. For me that's wrong, if we just hear 'oh it's tootling along, now at 75% or so complete on the layout" is much better than nothing.
Again, agreed 100%. :)
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Hey Guys! Sorry for the long silence. Your frustrations are totally legit. Massive update on the KS page here.
Greg
Thank you for that mindblowingly detailed update, Greg. I appreciate it. I'm sorry if I came across as a disgruntled customer, because I'm really not. I became worried (needlessly so) by the mention of you shifting focus from The Blight to Bard's Gate, and you've gone above and beyond in detailing the specifics.
I look forward to unleashing the vile abomination that is The Blight upon my poor, unsuspecting players.
Thanks so much for the update, Greg! That allays a lot of my worry.
Good luck with the rest of your schooling for the year!
And has it got tentacles around it's neck or is that a collar. I am sure we'll find out soon!
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Hey Guys! Sorry for the long silence. Your frustrations are totally legit. Massive update on the KS page.
Much appreciated. Just spending my time reading Rappan Athuk for the First Time and Stoneheart Valley again... I feel like a 12 year old again, reading modules over and over and over again because I don't have the $6 to buy another one...
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Here's how I approach Kickstarters:
1} Do I trust the company? If no, do not pledge. If yes, pledge.
2} Do not read the release date.
3} Be pleasantly surprised when awesome products show up.
So far this technique has served me (very) well. I've backed 18 (funded) projects so far, to the tune of just shy of $3,000 USD. 13 have delivered fully. 1 has delivered the electronic copy of the product and is shipping the physical book soon. 2 (including this one) are works-in-progress, releasing slowly and surely. The remaining 2 are video games, one of which is making progress but behind schedule (no, it's not Star Citizen) and the other isn't supposed to be done yet.
So yeah. I don't know when The Blight is supposed to ship. Don't care. As long as it happens, that'll be good enough for me.
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While I can understand the first time Backers concern over The Blight's apparent lack of updates and delay, I have pledged several FGG ks and have received everything that was promised. The delay on this one is a combination of many things, none of which would delay a project on their own but when combined together did affect the production schedule.
Having Bill and Greg come out to try to explain why this project is behind goes a long way on calming my fears. So I ask that you settle back in anticipation of what an awesome book this will be when it arrives, not if it arrives.
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Here's how I approach Kickstarters:
1} Do I trust the company? If no, do not pledge. If yes, pledge.
2} Do not read the release date.
3} Be pleasantly surprised when awesome products show up.So far this technique has served me (very) well. I've backed 18 (funded) projects so far, to the tune of just shy of $3,000 USD. 13 have delivered fully. 1 has delivered the electronic copy of the product and is shipping the physical book soon. 2 (including this one) are works-in-progress, releasing slowly and surely. The remaining 2 are video games, one of which is making progress but behind schedule (no, it's not Star Citizen) and the other isn't supposed to be done yet.
So yeah. I don't know when The Blight is supposed to ship. Don't care. As long as it happens, that'll be good enough for me.
+1
And, oh, dear, Your post made me go count how many projects I have backed. I'm north of 50 funded Kickstarters (though I tend to go for lower pledge levels based on our relative contributions). I have no concerns with FGG pledges - ever. They will be worth the coin - and the wait - when they arrive.
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As one of The Blight's developers, I can tell you all... the time is close. Very close. You will soon know why you are afraid of the dark. You will soon learn why you fear the night. :)
So checking in, what's the procedure if addresses need to be changed and shipping costs differ? By October I'm afraid the address I submitted won't be valid anymore and be in a different country.
Greg just posted three more updates on Tome of the Blighted Horrors here.
huzzah!
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Is there any way to get in on 'The Blight' kickstarter, despite it being over already, Mr. Pett?
Can I bribe you with aboleth slime cookies?
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Hmmm, the ones that are lightly spiced and grilled until they are crispy, laced with those little live frogs that crunch and taste vaguely of burdock and sugar. Yum.
The book will be on sale afterwards Alice, via the frogs, fret not. I'm also hammering a few crooked nails of adventures slowly into place and that will be available in due course - although obviously stitching flesh together takes time.
I've also recently seen the Tome of Blighted Horrors in her full glory, she's beautiful. The developers John Ling, Alistair Rigg, Jeff Swank and Greg deserve considerable credit for what they've done - frighteningly nasty, I can't express my praise and slight concern enough.
Rich
Got an ETA on that, good sir? I am looking forward to adding 'The Blight' to the horror gaming section of my bookshelf.
Since you mentioned that you based it thematically on 'The Styes', which was one of my favorite adventuring locales from the days of Dungeon, I am interested in seeing how it turns out.
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I was unable to pledge the Kickstarter (grumble grumble rent, food grumble) but my financial situation should be much better when this opens up for retail sale. Could I ask you to please announce on this thread when that comes to fruition? I would be most grateful!
-Your whispering monkunculus
The good part about the delay is I should be able to afford to buy almost all the add ons now....
I am so excite for this book.
If I had to guess, I would say that because of the deadline for getting the BG sent off to the printer that The Blight was pushed back a bit. But I trust that Greg and company are back working on getting the Blight out soon also.
Ok, have to ask somewhere, and here will do. The Frog's Facebook page teased printing in Europe and Australia. Can we have more details, as the prices for shipping to Croatia are the most of the reason I only have Sword of Air and nothing else from Frogs in hardcover (and I even wouldn't have that if there wasn't for a friend in Texas).
It is an option the Frogs are looking into, they are in the process of testing how good the printers are. Some of us fans will be ordering books from these printers and confirming/denying that the print/book quality is upto Frogs standard. So this is not happening next week, but is in the process of being checked out.
Yah I am not worried about it getting done, just wondering if there is any timeline for when I might get it into my greedy little hands.
Greg said in July that they expect to be trickling out pdfs in the next month or so, here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/the-lost-lands-the-blight -richard-petts-crooked-ci/posts/1641808
Though he cautioned he didn't have any firm timelines. First one expected is the Tome of Blighted Horrors.
Don't know for sure on the pdf dates either. I figure probably a couple months in advance of the dates I ball parked below, though these will likely be staggered. For instance, ToBH shouldn't be more than a month or two away...
This was what he said re: the physical product:
As for timeline, to make a guess I'd say end of 2016/beginning of 2017. But I don't have concrete data to back that up, just my sense of it. I'm sorry I can't be more specific.
Anyway, my sense of it is they are getting it done as quick as they can while ensuring it meets their high standards of quality.
:)
Yeah things take awhile. I am not going to lie I am also hungry for an update, but I am trusting that the time they are not spending updating us is being spent working on the product. Still moderately irritating but I love the work the Frogs do and I know in the end this is going to be a book I am excited to have on my shelf.
All I can say is... Frog God Games is NOT Fire Mountain Games, and I have the utmost confidence that this will be coming out in the near future.
That said, I've never thrown as much money at a Kickstarter as I did for this one, and I'd kind of like an update, too...
If you want to start running something in The Blight before you have this delightful abomination in your hands, you could pick up Richard Pett's two modules set in The Styes that were published in the old Dungeon magazine:
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...or, if you fancy really immersing yourself in the twisted city of Richard Pett's mind, there's:
Highly Recommended and, I suspect, a good primer for what the Blight will bring us...
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The Frogs recently posted a couple of updates on Facebook about that, Necromental. They now offer print on demand and localish (with in the EU & to AUS/NZ) for Rappan Athuk for Pathfinder/S&W. I'm sure they'll add more options if Rappan Athuk does well enough.
http://froggodgames.com/rappan-athuk
Ok, have to ask somewhere, and here will do. The Frog's Facebook page teased printing in Europe and Australia. Can we have more details, as the prices for shipping to Croatia are the most of the reason I only have Sword of Air and nothing else from Frogs in hardcover (and I even wouldn't have that if there wasn't for a friend in Texas).
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We have been neating the ponies...errr editors.
Its moving along, this thing is just so darn big. It may be a bit for the main book, but we should start sending out a few of the pdfs of the modules etc sometime in November. I asked Greg to post a detailed updaylte soon.
Bill
Tiny little narcissistic feedback for you. I get the PR urge to dribble out whatever part of a project is done as soon as it is... but I figure I might not be alone in finding that a bit annoying.
Did I already download all the chunks yet? I dunno. Where's the download link for that part I forgot? I dunno. How many parts are there anyway, for what I pledged? I dunno.
Personally I find it a lot less stressful to go from "this project isn't done and I don't need to think about it" to "oh, it's out and I should double-check ONCE that my pledge matches what I've been allowed to download".
I'm probably unique in this... but maybe not.
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You need only track any given message once, though. If you get it from the FGG site, it's in your downloads forever and you can return to that library when you need to see what you've received. You can delete the email once you have the product in your library.
At least, that's how I would manage it, whether it's one release or 20.. I wouldn't want to track it in my email at all. Of course, to each his own.
I love the Froggies, but I don't know how I feel about them starting yet another kickstarter today with two currently pending, one of which is looking to be way behind schedule.
Couldn't the manpower be better served catching up the current ones?