Anti-Unchained Screed

[blackbloodtroll]

You can play APs for PFS credit.

[Charon's Little Helper]

Rhedyn wrote:

PF has a very large FtP (free to play) side. I know of entire tables where no one has purchased a single item.

Right - that's why I specified that the bulk of 'customers' had rulebooks - not merely players of Pathfinder. I doubt that Paizo considers such players to be customers.

On the other hand - all PFS players are required to have the books (or at least pdfs) they use to make their character, making them all customers.

[Cerberus Seven]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

You can play APs for PFS credit.

Wait, what? How does that even work?

[Atarlost]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

You can play APs for PFS credit.

If you're doing that you're not a PFS only player anymore. PFS runs individual single session adventures. Once you're running an AP you're out of the repeatable french fry pick up group organized play paradigm and don't need to use organized play rules. Your AP characters can't transfer over to PFS anyways because PFS stops at the same level as the shorter APs. Even if you're still playing at the game shop that's a closed group, which is what people mean by home game. Just like we call it table top roleplaying even when using map software over the Internet.

Obviously someone who plays both PFS and home games will tend to buy stuff for both PFS and home games, but they also wouldn't leave the hobby if PFS stopped since they're playing home games. They would probably stop buying new rules line books they could use the SRD for home games, but they'll probably do that at some point anyways. Surely you've noticed the trend towards rules fatigue lately? And that's among people interested enough in rules to talk about them on the Internet.

[TimD]

Atarlost wrote:

PFS only players have no reason to have an AP subscription. They don't play APs. That line sells almost exclusively to home gamers who have groups they hope to run them for. PFS only players would mostly consume the rules line hardcovers, which have much lower profit margins.

Disagree: I have never used Golarion for my homegames (as a GM, at least, and barring a drunken spoof kobolds game that took place with kobolds trying to become Pathfinders...) and only really buy PF product for PFS. It's actually the splat books that PFS player consume voraciously, especially given that they're less likely to be errata'd into wondering why you wasted your money like the hardbacks recently have been. Well, that and the PF Battles minis.

I also don't think I've ever met anyone who ONLY plays PFS, unless they were just introduced to Pathfinder and it happened to be through PFS.

-TimD

[Chris Lambertz]

Removed a series of back and forth/baiting posts.