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I've been playing since RotR but I'm actually kind of unsure about this:

Let's say Balazar takes the Diplomacy check from one of the Demonic Army Barriers (Demonic Platoon to be precise)

Balazar doesn't actually have diplomacy, he has charisma, so he's rolling a D4. But does

a) Any skillpoints put into charisma count towards the diplomacy check?
b) a spell like glibness which boosts charisma help?
c) The Troop Of Kenabres having boosted charisma help?

I think it's yes to all of the above but I have like 3% fear that Im wrong.


I'm afraid it is no to all 3.

WotR Rulebook p12 wrote:
Some cards and powers affect only specific types of checks, such as Dexterity checks, Acrobatics checks, or non-combat checks. If, on your character card, the skill you’re using refers to another skill, both skills count for the purpose of determining the type of check. For example, if you’re using the Arcane skill on a combat check, and your character card says that your Arcane skill is Intelligence +2, the check counts as both a combat Arcane check and a combat Intelligence check.

Balazar isn't making a Charisma check when he makes a Diplomacy check. His Diplomacy doesn't refer to another skill, so it doesn't count as a Charisma check. So adding to his Charisma does nothing for his Diplomacy.

Grand Lodge

It's the same when someone makes a Knowledge check and they don't have Knowledge. A few people in my groups assumed that it was Knowledge: Intelligence but it isn't. If you don't have Knowledge listed, it is a base d4 (which Hawkmoon was inferring) and isn't based on the primary skill.


So there we go, we have been playing this wrong for a while now. Or maybe we were playing it right back in RotR but forgot along the way. Will fix now thank you.

I assume the same applies to the more martial skills like ranged and melee.

Boosts to strength dont automatically apply to melee and dex to ranged?

The character would have to say melee: strentgh +2 or whatever for a strength spell to work right?

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A Strength spell would still work because when someone makes a Combat check and they don't have a card to change the dice, it defaults to a Strength check. the Strength spell enhances your Strength checks, so you'd still get the +3.

Now, if a barrier required a Melee check, then you wouldn't add anything to the check unless you actually have the Melee skill.

Grand Lodge

You are correct that it applies to skills like Ranged and Melee.

Rulebook pg 13 wrote:
Harsk’s Strength skill is d6; since he doesn’t have the Melee skill, he would roll a d4 for that.

Harsk doesn't have Melee: Strength so he would need to use a d4 if something specifically needed Melee rather than Strength or Melee.

If something required a Melee check and your character has Melee: Strength +2, then you could play the Strength spell to boost the check (if playing a spell was appropriate at that time).


Right, and if a boon bosted strength or melee by three for example, it would still work for Imrijka's ranged checks, because those go off of her strength right?

Grand Lodge

Yes.

EDIT: But not if something boosted Melee only.

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