Radiance power question


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The loot weapon Radiance(deck 1) states:
Reveal to use strength or melee skill +1d8; you may additionally discard to add 1d6 and the adventure number. If you have the Paladin trait, add an additional 1d4+1.

My question is: If you are Seelah and use this weapon for a combat check, do you have to discard the card in order to use the 1d4+1 for being a Paladin? Thematically, if you're a Paladin you should get a bonus from a Holy sword without having to discard, but "add 1d4+1" was under the discard instruction and said "add an additional". Either way I wanted to check to see what the intent was as to the wording.


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No, the additional 1d4+1 for being a Paladin is its own sentence, meaning it takes effect separately. Revealing the card is enough to get that bonus, discarding is unnecessary.


The Paladin modifier applies regardless of whether you discard Radiance. Thus:

-Holding it as Seelah:
MELEE + 1d8 + 1d4+1

-Throwing it as Seelah:
MELEE + 1d8 + 1d6+SAD# + 1d4+1.


That's what I thought but I wasn't 100% sure. Thanks Skizzerz and Sandslice : ).


So by that logic Holy Radiance offers melee+1d8+# of mythic charges+1d10 base when wielded by Seelah?? Plus an potential 1d10 bonus if the bane has the demon trait... and 1d6+adventure deck number if discarded?

The card is a bit confusing as written because it states each bonus as an additional add on which implies you get it if you completed the preceeding condition.

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Go sentence by sentence.

This:

"...reveal this card to use your Strength or Melee skill + 1d8; you may additionally discard this card to add another 1d6 and the scenario’s adventure deck number. If you have the Paladin trait, add an additional 1d4+1."

...lets a Paladin add the 1d4+1 whether or not they discarded the weapon.

This:

"...reveal this card to use your Strength or Melee skill + 1d8. You may additionally discard this card to add another 1d6 and the scenario’s adventure deck number; if you have the Paladin trait, add an additional 1d4+1."

...would let the Paladin add the 1d4+1 only if they discarded.

And, since you specifically inquired about the word "additional", this:

"...reveal this card to use your Strength or Melee skill + 1d8; you may additionally discard this card to add another 1d6 and the scenario’s adventure deck number. If you have the Paladin trait, add 1d4+1."

..would make a Paladin who discarded wonder if they were supposed to add the 1d4+1 instead of the 1d6 and the scenario’s adventure deck number.

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