Is there a way to make the Spectre using pathfinder rules?
Here is some info on the Spectre (the Spectre)
Is there a way to make a godlike character in Pathfinder? Sure, just make a sufficiently high level wizard. Or, you know, actually make him a god.
Other than making him a deity, no. Or giving him mythic wish as an at-will SLA, but that's more or less equivalent in how badly it meshes with a setting.
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Create him using Mutants and Masterminds rules. Maybe they're compatible enough.
LazarX wrote: Create him using Mutants and Masterminds rules. Maybe they're compatible enough. I will check out the Mutants and Masterminds rules then.
xavier c wrote: Is there a way to make the Spectre using pathfinder rules?
Here is some info on the Spectre (the Spectre)
Technically he is a fallen Solar." Aztar who had participated in Lucifer's rebellion, but then repented, and that serving as the embodiment of God's anger was its penance."
Starbuck_II wrote: xavier c wrote: Is there a way to make the Spectre using pathfinder rules?
Here is some info on the Spectre (the Spectre)
Technically he is a fallen Solar." Aztar who had participated in Lucifer's rebellion, but then repented, and that serving as the embodiment of God's anger was its penance."
But he is far more powerful then a Solar
I was thinking of using mythic rules but after reading some more about his feats in detail. He is beyond Golarion/pathfinder true deity level power. I think i am just going to use the suggested Mutants and Masterminds rules if they help.
Quote: He is beyond Golarion/pathfinder true deity level power If this is the case why bother 'making' him at all? Just have him do whatever you need him to do at any given moment(s) to fit the story. It's not as if he isn't capable of it from what I'm reading. If not and he still fits the bill of the above quote then you are already well beyond anything the rules, the game and the campaign themselves truly deal with and are pretty much on your own.
And, of course, the characters in a novel, comic, movie or other narrative are totally under the writers control, they always react and do exactly what the author(s) intend and need them to do. Players and their characters don't have that constraint upon them to follow and do exactly as desired by the GM to make the story progress as the GM may desire. The Spectre is as powerful (or weak) as the writers need him to be to tell whatever story they have in mind. Even though M&M rules are more designed to convey the power of someone like Spectre even those rules place limits on what can and cannot be done ... so even there a GM may have no other choice than to 'break' the constraints of the rules for his story regardless if they are D&D rules, d20 rules, M&M or any other system.
So let Spectre do what he needs to do for your story and worry about rules when or if needed as ultimately that's why the rules exist in the first place to help and aid in telling your and your player characters story.
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xavier c wrote:
But he is far more powerful then a Solar
If you're referring to the comics, the Spectre's power level goes up and down like a yo-yo, depending on the whims of his Master. (or the person writing him.) So it all depends on WHICH Spectre you're talking about.
Keep in mind that D20/Pathfinder was never designed for creating comic book superheroes, the way M+M was.
A Solar can do Wish 1/day for free, and Miracle another 4 times if they like (costing the normal amount).
That sounds like a sufficient approximation for most purposes. If you like, tack on 10 Mythic Tiers of Hierophant and make it really crazy.
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Deadmanwalking wrote: A Solar can do Wish 1/day for free, and Miracle another 4 times if they like (costing the normal amount).
Only if it's called, and it's not just going to give those spells away.
LazarX wrote: Only if it's called, and it's not just going to give those spells away. We're talking about using one as an independent NPC (specifically, as the Spectre), not a PC summoning one. Making this a completely irrelevant statement.
I mean, it's true, but that doesn't make it relevant.
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Deadmanwalking wrote: LazarX wrote: Only if it's called, and it's not just going to give those spells away. We're talking about using one as an independent NPC (specifically, as the Spectre), not a PC summoning one. Making this a completely irrelevant statement.
I mean, it's true, but that doesn't make it relevant. I suspect that the OP is intending it for his PC.
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