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Just because the situation came up recently.

It would seem that RAW Evasion works as long as you are wearing the right armor for the class that grants it with no other terms attached?

Or is there some term i'm missing in relation to encumbrance?

Situation: In a recent game, under time pressure, the group had to move lots of heavy things from spot A to spot B.
They picked up as much as possible(without getting staggered) and were carrying the "Maximum Load" when they were suddenly attacked.

I am aware that limits the effective Dex Modifier and thus the Reflex Save, but (improved) Evasion triggers all the same?
I was under the impression that Evasion also got limited if you were overencumbered similar to wearing too-heavy armor but find nothing to support that?

Looking at the PRD, it mentions armour but gives no restriction regarding other kinds of encumbrance, so it works just fine unless there is some errata/FAQ I am unaware of.

One thing, though: Armour does not place any limits on your reflex save. EDIT: And AFAIK neither does being encumbered.

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CRB p169 wrote:
A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.

A medium or heavy load prevents you from using Evasion if you cannot use Evasion in medium or heavy armor.

Gauss wrote:
CRB p169 wrote:
A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.
A medium or heavy load prevents you from using Evasion if you cannot use Evasion in medium or heavy armor.

Please link to where you get that information

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

Encumbrance (by weight) restricts you just as armor would.


PRD wrote:

...

Encumbrance by Weight: If you want to determine whether your character's gear is heavy enough to slow him down more than his armor already does, total the weight of all the character's items, including armor, weapons, and gear. Compare this total to the character's Strength on Table: Carrying Capacity. Depending on the character's carrying capacity, he or she may be carrying a light, medium, or heavy load. Like armor, a character's load affects his maximum Dexterity bonus to AC, carries a check penalty (which works like an armor check penalty), reduces the character's speed, and affects how fast the character can run, as shown on Table: Encumbrance Effects. A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor. Carrying a light load does not encumber a character.
...

Hope this helps.

As always, just my two coppers...

-Doomn

from work i cant link it but i can tell you in the encumberance section it tells you that a medium or heavy load behaves like medium or heavy armor for ability purposes

edit:seems i have been ninja'd
Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber
J4RH34D wrote:
Gauss wrote:
CRB p169 wrote:
A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.
A medium or heavy load prevents you from using Evasion if you cannot use Evasion in medium or heavy armor.
Please link to where you get that information

His quote tells you, Core Rule Book page 169.

My previous post (all be it a little late - darn slow typing speed) has a link to the prd.

As always, just my two coppers...

-Doomn
Doomn wrote:
J4RH34D wrote:
Gauss wrote:
CRB p169 wrote:
A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.
A medium or heavy load prevents you from using Evasion if you cannot use Evasion in medium or heavy armor.
Please link to where you get that information

His quote tells you, Core Rule Book page 169.

My previous post (all be it a little late - darn slow typing speed) has a link to the prd.

As always, just my two coppers...

-Doomn

Thank you

EDIT: i feel like an a**hole for not reading more clearly
J4RH34D wrote:
Gauss wrote:
CRB p169 wrote:
A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.
A medium or heavy load prevents you from using Evasion if you cannot use Evasion in medium or heavy armor.
Please link to where you get that information

Did you not see the quote where I cited the source? I gave book and page number.

(I don't use the PRD, it is less accurate than the latest printing of the book.)

Thanks a lot :D So I did not misremember after all!

That part of

CRB p169 wrote:
A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.

was what lingered in the back of my head, but it would seem i totally over-read it when i tried to check.

Thanks a lot for pointing it out!
Gauss wrote:
J4RH34D wrote:
Gauss wrote:
CRB p169 wrote:
A medium or heavy load counts as medium or heavy armor for the purpose of abilities or skills that are restricted by armor.
A medium or heavy load prevents you from using Evasion if you cannot use Evasion in medium or heavy armor.
Please link to where you get that information

Did you not see the quote where I cited the source? I gave book and page number.

(I don't use the PRD, it is less accurate than the latest printing of the book.)

I did rush a bit in the read and didnt see. my appologies

No worries, we all miss reading things sometimes. :)
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