Two questions regarding barbarians


Rules Questions


I've been working around a lvl 20 barbarian for a campaign and I have two questions.

1. Does a +5 furious weapon count as a +7 weapon while in rage despite the +5 limit?

2. I know that by RAW rage cycling is perfectly legal since both start and end a rage are free actions; but is there any 'official' statement that proves that it is not just a side effect based on an uninteded rule?


1) Yes

2) No


2. They also get it for free at 17 with tireless rage, so I see not reason why it would not be intended.


wraithstrike wrote:
2. They also get it for free at 17 with tireless rage, so I see not reason why it would not be intended.

Thanks for your answer, I'm aware of tireless rage, it's just my GM can be a bit picky sometimes so I want to have enough arguments just un case.

Any other oppinion or reference?


Rasief wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:
2. They also get it for free at 17 with tireless rage, so I see not reason why it would not be intended.

Thanks for your answer, I'm aware of tireless rage, it's just my GM can be a bit picky sometimes so I want to have enough arguments just un case.

Any other oppinion or reference?

If the base class gets it for free, and Paizo did not put a limit on it, then there is no way to say they see it as a bad thing.

There are other ways to rage cycle too.

I think your GM just does not like it, but in that case he should say so instead of trying to find a way in the rules to get around it.

PS: I do understand how some see it as cheesy so you might want to not do it too much if it annoys him.


Looking at the rage description in the Core Rulebook I found something that can justify the rage cycle as something that was in the mind of the developers:

"... A barbarian cannot enter a new rage while fatigued or exhausted but can otherwise enter rage multiple times during a single encounter or combat."

Regarding the +5 furious weapon as a +7 weapon while in rage is there any clarification out there?

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