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From the Guide:
Any Seeker with sufficient Fame and experience can purchase scrolls containing 7th-, 8th-, and 9th-level spells, following the price guidelines in the Core Rulebook. Access to these spells is restricted to scrolls and is not available for spell-casting services. Upon reaching 13th level, Seekers are eligible to select spells or purchase 7th-level scrolls. Upon reaching 15th level, they are eligible to select spells or purchase 8th-level scrolls. Upon reaching 17th level, they are eligible to select spells or purchase 9th-level scrolls
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Per the PFS ruling, it goes:
- Check if Clerics, Wizards, or Druids have it on their spell list. If so, use that Spell Level.
- If it shows on more than one of the Cleric, Wizard, and/or Druid spell list, you can get the lowest Spell Level.
- If it does not show on any of the three spell list, you can obtain it at the appropriate price per the CRB price scale for the appropriate class. Ex: A 2nd Spell Level scroll of a Paladin costs 200gp.
- For normal PFS play (Levels 1-11), you can only buy up to 6th Spell Level scrolls.
So if you really want, you can buy that 6th level Bard Scroll for 2400gp.
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Per the PFS ruling, it goes:
- Check if Clerics, Wizards, or Druids have it on their spell list. If so, use that Spell Level.
- If it shows on more than one of the Cleric, Wizard, and/or Druid spell list, you can get the lowest Spell Level.
- If it does not show on any of the three spell list, you can obtain it at the appropriate price per the CRB price scale for the appropriate class. Ex: A 2nd Spell Level scroll of a Paladin costs 200gp.
- For normal PFS play (Levels 1-11), you can only buy up to 6th Spell Level scrolls.So if you really want, you can buy that 6th level Bard Scroll for 2400gp.
But it's on the Cleric list, so you can't access it as a Bard scroll, period. So, the answer is no.
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It's an 8th level Cleric spell.So if you really want, you can buy that 6th level Bard Scroll for 2400gp.Assuming it doesn't appear on the cleric, wizard, or druid spell list as well.
I think it was hyperbole, since the spell in question was not listed as being a Bard spell of any level, just a Cleric 8 or Paladin 4 spell.
Now, if you find a Bard/Summoner/Paladin/Ranger spell of highest level, that is not on any of the three "primary" classes' lists, you could buy it, even at lower level, as it wouldn't be a 7th, 8th, or 9th level spell.
A backdoor, as it were, to an inappropriately-powered spell for pre-Seeker play. But putting in a safeguard for it would add a significant amount of verbiage to the Guide, and potentially require a significant amount of work for the volunteer GM force.
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Well, that lets me know what I thought was correct. The player had previously purchased that scroll (in someone else’s game) and it was the only reason he lived during the #4-26 Waking Rune scenario at our local convention.
At the time of the battle I thought it was one of the lesser versions of angelic aspect , but I didn't realize he meant the greater version until he said he had a racial save bonus vs. poison and the cloudkill spell effect that he was attacked with. Additionally, an evil summoned monster was kept at bay due to the protection from evil effect from his scroll. I was too busy running the scenario to go thru and check everything as it was running late.
At the end of the day, I figured this out, confirmed what I thought was correct, and after a quorum of the VC's, we ruled that he had actually died, since he couldn't legally have had the item that saved him. And, now that one of the Dev’s (Mike Brock) also confirmed it, there is no question.
YIDM
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It's an 8th level Cleric spell.So if you really want, you can buy that 6th level Bard Scroll for 2400gp.Assuming it doesn't appear on the cleric, wizard, or druid spell list as well.
I think I had sent out a misconception. I was using the bard class spell list as an example. Clarification of that sentence would be this:
"So if you really want, you can buy that 6th level Bard Scroll of Brilliant Inspiration for 2400g, since it is underneath 7th level scrolls and does not show up on a Cleric, Wizard, or Druid spell list."
As for the Angelic Aspect, the Lesser, Standard, and Greater are at Spell Level 2/5/8 respectively. All three cases given Protection against Evil. Only the Greater gives out a Magic Circle against Evil. At the Player's level, if they did fail the save, the cloudkill would be 1d4 CON damage, with the cloud rolling past the party.
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It's an 8th level Cleric spell.So if you really want, you can buy that 6th level Bard Scroll for 2400gp.Assuming it doesn't appear on the cleric, wizard, or druid spell list as well.I think I had sent out a misconception. I was using the bard class spell list as an example. Clarification of that sentence would be this:
"So if you really want, you can buy that 6th level Bard Scroll of Brilliant Inspiration for 2400g, since it is underneath 7th level scrolls and does not show up on a Cleric, Wizard, or Druid spell list."
As for the Angelic Aspect, the Lesser, Standard, and Greater are at Spell Level 2/5/8 respectively. All three cases given Protection against Evil. Only the Greater gives out a Magic Circle against Evil. At the Player's level, if they did fail the save, the cloudkill would be 1d4 CON damage, with the cloud rolling past the party.
The cloudkill was empowered per the scenario, and maximized via a metamagic rod effect, and the PC was stuck in it a few rounds due to a black tentacles effect. The character in question only had a 10 Con to begin with, so, yeah...we would have died had it not been for the +4 racial bonus vs. poison and +4 resistance bonus to saves.
YIDM