I have read that you can only get the bonus to the damage on the first attack. ( because you have to pull the lance back ) but what if you had two lances? or a 6/1 bab? would you still get the x2 damage on the charge?
can you spirited charge and mounted skirmisher?
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I have read that you can only get the bonus to the damage on the first attack. ( because you have to pull the lance back ) but what if you had two lances? or a 6/1 bab? would you still get the x2 damage on the charge?
can you spirited charge and mounted skirmisher?
What you're looking for is pummeling charge, and then you wouldn't be using your lance.
You could get it ruled that the level 9 ability of a two weapon warrior would allow you attack with both lances, although charge attack is a special action separate from a standard action to attack so by RAW it wouldn't work.
I have read that you can only get the bonus to the damage on the first attack. ( because you have to pull the lance back ) but what if you had two lances? or a 6/1 bab? would you still get the x2 damage on the charge?
If you have (pounce/mounted skirmisher/whatever-lets-you-full-attack-on-a-charge) and you make a charging attack, only the first attack in your full attack action counts as a lance charge - the remainder are just normal attacks, regardless of whether or not they come from two-weapon fighting or a high base attack bonus.
can you spirited charge and mounted skirmisher?
Yes - presuming you're using a lance as part of a mounted charge, you'd get 3x damage on the first attack, and normal damage the remainder of your attacks (since they don't count as being charging lance attacks).
What you're looking for is pummeling charge, and then you wouldn't be using your lance.I have read that you can only get the bonus to the damage on the first attack. ( because you have to pull the lance back ) but what if you had two lances? or a 6/1 bab? would you still get the x2 damage on the charge?
can you spirited charge and mounted skirmisher?
nah i have a build around that. and thats a full round action. i just want to see if i had mounted skirmisher can i use mounted charge and spirited charge together as long as i dont move faster than my mounted speed.
I have read that you can only get the bonus to the damage on the first attack. ( because you have to pull the lance back ) but what if you had two lances? or a 6/1 bab? would you still get the x2 damage on the charge?If you have (pounce/mounted skirmisher/whatever-lets-you-full-attack-on-a-charge) and you make a charging attack, only the first attack in your full attack action counts as a lance charge - the remainder are just normal attacks, regardless of whether or not they come from two-weapon fighting or a high base attack bonus.
can you spirited charge and mounted skirmisher?Yes - presuming you're using a lance as part of a mounted charge, you'd get 3x damage on the first attack, and normal damage the remainder of your attacks (since they don't count as being charging lance attacks).
aww poo. thanks.
You could get it ruled that the level 9 ability of a two weapon warrior would allow you attack with both lances, although charge attack is a special action separate from a standard action to attack so by RAW it wouldn't work.
yeah i looked at that too but i dont think it will either.
Seeing as it is the act of pulling your arm back that stops the multiplier from charging, just use multiple limbs, then you shouldn't have a problem.
Also point out to your GM that the bonus damage from spirited charge is coming from your shoulder, not your charging mount, so you should be able to do it all the time ;)
Seeing as it is the act of pulling your arm back that stops the multiplier from charging, just use multiple limbs, then you shouldn't have a problem.
Also point out to your GM that the bonus damage from spirited charge is coming from your shoulder, not your charging mount, so you should be able to do it all the time ;)
thats what i was thinking too. but if i have two lances i dont have to pull back. the first two should deal triple damage right?
The point of the FAQ is that you should only be allowed to get triple damage on the first attack, even if you have more attacks.
But that's not what they said, they have the weirdness about pulling back arms. So you should be able to use an off hand lance for triple damage, but only half str and half power attack. But if you take the pulling the arm back anology even farther, you can use numerous natural attacks, for only double damage but full str and power attack. Claw/Claw/bite/trail slap/gore/slam/armor spikes maybe ... You totally shouldn't though
The point of the FAQ is that you should only be allowed to get triple damage on the first attack, even if you have more attacks.
This. But, if you want to apply reasoning to rules...
thats what i was thinking too. but if i have two lances i dont have to pull back. the first two should deal triple damage right?
Are you familiar with how a bed of nails works? A man who lays on a single nail is impaled by it, because the weight of his body is focused on a single point, but a man who lays on hundreds of nails at once is completely unharmed, because the force of his weight is divided evenly amongst the nails. If you wanted to use logic to say you hit with both lances at once (and therefore both should count as charging), rudimentary physics would also dictate that each lance strike only does half damage (i.e. each lance would do 1x damage, or 1.5x with spirited charge) - not exactly a favorable exchange most of the time, especially after you take into account the -4 penalty for dual wielding two non-light weapons.