It's official: I can't not vote for this rod. It IS my number 1 item.There's two rods I pretty much rank as 1 and 2.
Me, too. I wonder if they're the same two?
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It will not surprise me in the least if the author of the rod I am praising so highly is dogpiled by scads of positive feedback. But it WILL surprise me to the point of feeling injustice if this rod does not make top 32.
Prepare to be hurt. For the last 3 years, there were items (besides my own) I thought were guaranteed to be Top 32. Some didn't make the Top 89/100 and this year one was DQed for not being a specific weapon.
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Hmmm. I've got three rods on my keep list (which is only 12 items long) -- but I wouldn't have thought anyone else would have ranked them particularly highly. Maybe I just haven't seen the awesome ones.
(3 Staves, 2 Rings, 1 Shield, 3 Weapons (1 sword, 2 ammunition) are the others.)
EDIT: Like someone else said, the number of weak keeps is very long, in all categories.
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When making my list, I tried to put only 1 of each "flavor" when picking items. 1 earthbreaker, 1 net, 1 teleport item, 1 dark and grim (lying just a bit here), 1 undead affecting, 1 monster inspired, 1 racial item, 1 class item, etc. I went for what I thought were the most creative items working in those niches.
EDIT: My list is still not complete, been tinkering with it as I actually see the items side by side.
There's only 1 rod in my strong keep pile and it's because it is the only rod I feel did a strong enough job. Such is the subjectivity of voting.
There's a another rod out there that I could see being popular but there's a line between original and gonzo. In my opinion it slid over into the later category.
I trended very strongly towards weapons...
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I trended very strongly towards weapons...
10 of 34 items on my list are specific weapons. If you count rods, shields, and staffs that can be used as a weapon, the number rises...
After seeing other lists and talking with others, I have revised my keep list slightly (mostly removing boring rings).
Right now, I have three strong keeps: 2 rods and a weapon.
Then, I have seven average keeps: 2 more rods and 5 weapons.
Finally, I have 8 weaker keeps: 3 armors, 1 rod, 2 rings, 1 staff, and 1 weapon.
I haven't, but should have been, keeping my maybe list detailed, but it's got a lot of staves, the rings I pulled off the keep list lately, and a couple more rods/weapons. I think there's only one shield, but I need to see it again.
technically all staves can be used as masterwork quarterstaffs :)
Channel armor VS channel shield!
technically all staves can be used as masterwork quarterstaffs :)
And can you provide a link to back this up?
technically all staves can be used as masterwork quarterstaffs :)And can you provide a link to back this up?
I believe that is only the case if the staff in question is also a magic weapon. But I can't find anything that says you have to make a staff also be a magic weapon. It could just be a stick. A STICK OF ULTIMATE ARCANE POWER!
Physical Description: A typical staff measures anywhere from 4 feet to 7 feet long and is 2 inches to 3 inches thick, weighing about 5 pounds. Most staves are wood, but an exotic few are bone, metal, or even glass. A staff often has a gem or some device at its tip or is shod in metal at one or both ends. Staves are often decorated with carvings or runes. A typical staff also functions as a walking stick, quarterstaff, or cudgel. It has AC 7, 10 hit points, hardness 5, and a break DC of 24.
Emphasis mine. No mention of it being masterwork anywhere.
All magic items are at least masterwork quality.Jeff posted the info from the prd
I believe that is only the case if the staff in question is also a magic weapon. But I can't find anything that says you have to make a staff also be a magic weapon. It could just be a stick. A STICK OF ULTIMATE ARCANE POWER!technically all staves can be used as masterwork quarterstaffs :)And can you provide a link to back this up?
This is what I found
"A typical staff also functions as a walking stick, quarterstaff, or cudgel. It has AC 7, 10 hit points, hardness 5, and a break DC of 24."Nothing to stop you from making it a masterwork weapon just add 300 gp or 600 for quarterstaff to the price!
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All magic items are at least masterwork quality.Jeff posted the info from the prd
I can't find that anywhere. All weapons and armor have to be masterwork, but there is no indication that other items have to be. So if you made a walking stick that was not a magical weapon (a walking stick, arguably, wouldn't even be a simple weapon, but an improvised one if anything), but could cast 10 charges worth of spells per day, it wouldn't have to be masterwork. Or is there something I'm missing?
In fact, if you look at the pricing of staves in the PRD, they do not include a masterwork staff difference between the Cost and Price. That suggests that they are not masterwork.
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In fact, if you look at the pricing of staves in the PRD, they do not include a masterwork staff difference between the Cost and Price. That suggests that they are not masterwork.
This is correct, you can conceivably pick up a stick from your walk in the woods and make it a rod or staff. They aren't technically weapons.
Maybe I'm thinking of an old rule. I've always assumed that since they are also weapons and you can't put magic on a non masterwork one that it was assumed to be masterwork.
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In fact, if you look at the pricing of staves in the PRD, they do not include a masterwork staff difference between the Cost and Price. That suggests that they are not masterwork.
Except that if you look at the pricing of Staves that can be used as magic weapons, they have the Cost and Price added for the weapon enchantment bonus, but nothing for masterwork.
That implies to me that they get Masterwork for free. (EDIT: i.e., by virtue of simply being magical)
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
In fact, if you look at the pricing of staves in the PRD, they do not include a masterwork staff difference between the Cost and Price. That suggests that they are not masterwork.Except that if you look at the pricing of Staves that can be used as magic weapons, they have the Cost and Price added for the weapon enchantment bonus, but nothing for masterwork.
That implies to me that they get Masterwork for free.
Which ones? The staff of aspects has a cost of 19,100 gp and a price of 37,600, which is 600 gp less than double the cost (for both ends). The same differential occurs in the staff of authority. And the staff of curses...
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Which ones? The staff of aspects has a cost of 19,100 gp and a price of 37,600, which is 600 gp less than double the cost (for both ends). The same differential occurs in the staff of authority. And the staff of curses...In fact, if you look at the pricing of staves in the PRD, they do not include a masterwork staff difference between the Cost and Price. That suggests that they are not masterwork.Except that if you look at the pricing of Staves that can be used as magic weapons, they have the Cost and Price added for the weapon enchantment bonus, but nothing for masterwork.
That implies to me that they get Masterwork for free.
Hmmm. Not what I remember, but you may well be right. I'll take a look at this tonight when I get home. Are you looking at Core staves or UE staves?
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
Absolutely not.
I was feeling good about it at first now I don't know.
I haven't seen my item since the first day after the cull. I never saw my item but for once during the first part of voting, and made the cut-off, so I dunno how to feel.
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
Nah, but I remain hopeful. However, if I make this first hurdle, I'm going all the way to the finals.
I wouldn't worry about that, I've only seen my item twice (once pre, once post). But after some Keep List trading, there are definitely 32 items I'd pick before my own.
Hmmm. Not what I remember, but you may well be right. I'll take a look at this tonight when I get home. Are you looking at Core staves or UE staves?
The only Core staff I can find that has an enhancement bonus is the staff of power which, it does seem, is missing the extra 600 in the cost for masterwork. I guess they figured at 235,000 gp, they could comp you the MW bonus :)
The others are UE.
*CORRECTION* The staff of the woodlands from CRB also has a +2 enhancement bonus as a weapon. It, however, does include the 600 gp for MW in the cost. So only the staff of power is anomalous.
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So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
I'd be genuinely surprised. Maybe top 350 ;-)
I wouldn't worry about that, I've only seen my item twice (once pre, once post). But after some Keep List trading, there are definitely 32 items I'd pick before my own.
I only saw my item pop up in one other keep list, so I don't feel for certain like it's got a chance.
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
I'm confident my item will end up viewed by the judges (top 89 or 100 or whatever) but I am not confident it will be selected as top 32. No one should be, individual tastes vary too much.
Based on keep list trading, there's 4 or 5 items I think have a very good chance for top 32. Beyond that, who knows?
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So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"I'm confident my item will end up viewed by the judges (top 89 or 100 or whatever) but I am not confident it will be selected as top 32. No one should be, individual tastes vary too much.
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So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
I just ran some numbers this morning, and I think my odds of making the Top 32 are about 1 in 8. That assumes that I'm not in the top tier of finishers, but that I have a decent shot at the Top100, where I can squeak into the last couple of spots.
It's also pretty clear that in order for me to be Top 32, that the category of item I created needs to be over-represented.
I think I could jot down about 5 items I think are certainties, maybe 10, then after that it's anyone's guess.
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
When I started, Based on the enthusiasm of people around me of my entering, I was fairly confident. THEN I saw the items I was competing agianst. My confidence in the compitition was shaken.
My item is pretty unique, per what I have seen.
Before the compitition, I Figured, If I could make it to round 3, I was going to make it to the final round. I was that confident. I admit my foolishness.
After the compitition, if anyone wants to talk monsters, or encounter set up with me, I'm open to it. :-) I'd love to trade pointers.
My group of players have been talking about encoutners they had Years ago, with people they meet today in attempts to get them to join PFS.
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Finally found some filigree! I feel complete.
I will vote for you every time, you violent little dagger.
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"
Not at all. These contests are always so subjective that there are no guarantees. One judge might hate filigree or runes and no matter how original your item may be - out the window it goes.
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"Not at all. These contests are always so subjective that there are no guarantees. One judge might hate filigree or runes and no matter how original your item may be - out the window it goes.
True enough.
I think two ammunition are very good.
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