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If you're talking about [Redacted], I disagree. Restricting that ability in that way to fit that fluff was 100% Superstar. Imagine all the clunky ways a less Superstar designer might have tried to create that item (something involving [Redacted] transforming into [redacted] when exposed to [redacted], perhaps). As written, [Redacted] is a perfect example of a designer re-purposing existing mechanics to create entirely new flavor without having to invent a new rules subsystem.
Unless, of course, you aren't talking about [Redacted]. In that case, never mind.
That was the most enjoyable post that I seen in a while.
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Eric Morton wrote:If you're talking about [Redacted], I disagree. Restricting that ability in that way to fit that fluff was 100% Superstar. Imagine all the clunky ways a less Superstar designer might have tried to create that item (something involving [Redacted] transforming into [redacted] when exposed to [redacted], perhaps). As written, [Redacted] is a perfect example of a designer re-purposing existing mechanics to create entirely new flavor without having to invent a new rules subsystem.
Unless, of course, you aren't talking about [Redacted]. In that case, never mind.
That was the most enjoyable post that I seen in a while.
Agreed, I'm trying real hard to figure out which one they are talking about.
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Sir William wrote:Agreed, I'm trying real hard to figure out which one they are talking about.Eric Morton wrote:If you're talking about [Redacted], I disagree. Restricting that ability in that way to fit that fluff was 100% Superstar. Imagine all the clunky ways a less Superstar designer might have tried to create that item (something involving [Redacted] transforming into [redacted] when exposed to [redacted], perhaps). As written, [Redacted] is a perfect example of a designer re-purposing existing mechanics to create entirely new flavor without having to invent a new rules subsystem.
Unless, of course, you aren't talking about [Redacted]. In that case, never mind.
That was the most enjoyable post that I seen in a while.
Well, isn't that obvious? They are talking about [redacted].
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Jeff Lee wrote:Take standard item, limit an ability to particular circumstances, add a bunch of fancy fluff to build a theme.
:/ Nope. Not quite.
If you're talking about [Redacted], I disagree. Restricting that ability in that way to fit that fluff was 100% Superstar. Imagine all the clunky ways a less Superstar designer might have tried to create that item (something involving [Redacted] transforming into [redacted] when exposed to [redacted], perhaps). As written, [Redacted] is a perfect example of a designer re-purposing existing mechanics to create entirely new flavor without having to invent a new rules subsystem.
Unless, of course, you aren't talking about [Redacted]. In that case, never mind.
Well, if we're talking about [redacted] it could have been Superstar, but it didn't go far enough. It was an interesting idea, using the [redacted] theme, but then you have all the spell requirements of the item, like [redacted], which are present in the flavor text, but don't actually manifest into a mechanical ability. If the [redacted] just does [redacted], then why saddle it with extra crafting requirements that don't add to the overall product? If it had been a [redacted] that can only use the [redacted] ability when [redacted], and during that time all [redacted] cause a [redacted] effect, that would have put it into Superstar level for me.
Unless we are talking about [redacted], in which case I can't speak to it because I don't think it has come up for me in voting yet.
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GM_Solspiral wrote:Well, isn't that obvious? They are talking about [redacted].Sir William wrote:Agreed, I'm trying real hard to figure out which one they are talking about.Eric Morton wrote:If you're talking about [Redacted], I disagree. Restricting that ability in that way to fit that fluff was 100% Superstar. Imagine all the clunky ways a less Superstar designer might have tried to create that item (something involving [Redacted] transforming into [redacted] when exposed to [redacted], perhaps). As written, [Redacted] is a perfect example of a designer re-purposing existing mechanics to create entirely new flavor without having to invent a new rules subsystem.
Unless, of course, you aren't talking about [Redacted]. In that case, never mind.
That was the most enjoyable post that I seen in a while.
Then we can dig it.
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Oh yeah, and once again.
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Any post containing [redacted] should change the poster's avatar to a crotch shot of that retraining Valeros image with a suggestive black bar added to it.
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Jeff Lee wrote:Pretty sure that would have made a cool rod, rather than a staff.Upvote it and then let Paizo folks smack him/her with the right rod on head during the editorial teaching process.
Ah yes, the rod of percussive instruction... far more preferable than the +1 yardstick of knuckle cracking.
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I distinctly remember during my item-testing period, that my pit crew instructed me not to use the phrase "As per" when referencing an effect of a spell.
Example:
"Illuminates a 20-foot radius as per the light spell." = Wrong :(
"Illuminated a 20-foot radius as light." = Right!
At least, this is what I was told. DISCUSS!
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I distinctly remember during my item-testing period, that my pit crew instructed me not to use the phrase "As per" when referencing an effect of a spell.
Example:
"Illuminates a 20-foot radius as per the light spell." = Wrong :(
"Illuminated a 20-foot radius as light." = Right!
At least, this is what I was told. DISCUSS!
I won't ding you for that, it's your word count after all :D
That said, Template Fu, says the second entry is the mostly correct form used in existing items... or at least in the one's he found on a quick PRD scan ;)
You should have said "as light spell."
But even that is inconsistent...
Amulet - "allows its wearer to utilize plane shift."
Amulet - "just as a nondetection spell does"
Bead - " like a resilient sphere spell"
This variance is why I won't get too upset about which way you went, however, if you use "as" or "like" constructs, I will expect to see "spell" after the spell name :D
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Any word on the purge?
It is the "Cull." As in:
cullnoun
1.a selective slaughter of wild animals.
2.an inferior or surplus livestock animal selected for killing.
verb
1.reduce the population of (a wild animal) by selective slaughter.
synonyms: kill, slaughter, destroy, harvest
2.send (an inferior or surplus animal on a farm) to be slaughtered.
As opposed to:
purge
noun
1.an abrupt or violent removal of a group of people from an organization or place.
verb
1.remove (a group of people considered undesirable) from an organization or place in an abrupt or violent manner.
synonyms: remove, get rid of, expel, eject, exclude, dismiss, sack, oust, eradicate, clear out, weed out
2.evacuate one's bowels, especially as a result of taking a laxative.
These are not pleasant terms and I've said before that maybe we should use a less harsh word for this event. Any suggestions?
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Thunderfrog wrote:Any word on the purge?It is the "Cull." As in:
cull
noun
1.a selective slaughter of wild animals.
2.an inferior or surplus livestock animal selected for killing.
verb
1.reduce the population of (a wild animal) by selective slaughter.
synonyms: kill, slaughter, destroy, harvest
2.send (an inferior or surplus animal on a farm) to be slaughtered.As opposed to:
purge
noun
1.an abrupt or violent removal of a group of people from an organization or place.
verb
1.remove (a group of people considered undesirable) from an organization or place in an abrupt or violent manner.
synonyms: remove, get rid of, expel, eject, exclude, dismiss, sack, oust, eradicate, clear out, weed out
2.evacuate one's bowels, especially as a result of taking a laxative.These are not pleasant terms and I've said before that maybe we should use a less harsh word for this event. Any suggestions?
Cull is definitely better than purge and I don't think we can—or should—soften it. To be a professional writer requires a thick skin and no matter what you call it, being cut will hurt...if you are aware of it. Remember they don't actually list whose items were culled. There is only the confirmation of seeing your item post-cull to know that it wasn't removed.
By leaving it as cull, it accurately describes the removal process and the inherent harshness of the cut. "Cut" could be used, but as anyone who was part of a tryout for anything could tell you it is no better. Cull is what emerged and barring overwhelming support for another term, cull it most probably shall remain.
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Thunderfrog wrote:Any word on the purge?It is the "Cull." As in:
cull
noun
1.a selective slaughter of wild animals.
2.an inferior or surplus livestock animal selected for killing.
verb
1.reduce the population of (a wild animal) by selective slaughter.
synonyms: kill, slaughter, destroy, harvest
2.send (an inferior or surplus animal on a farm) to be slaughtered.As opposed to:
purge
noun
1.an abrupt or violent removal of a group of people from an organization or place.
verb
1.remove (a group of people considered undesirable) from an organization or place in an abrupt or violent manner.
synonyms: remove, get rid of, expel, eject, exclude, dismiss, sack, oust, eradicate, clear out, weed out
2.evacuate one's bowels, especially as a result of taking a laxative.These are not pleasant terms and I've said before that maybe we should use a less harsh word for this event. Any suggestions?
While I believe your heart is in the right place, I think a few of those very accurately portray how I feel about a few of these items I have to keep seeing.
In the spirit of fair play, rather than use a word like purge, cull, or reduction, why not use a word that has a positive connotation... suggesting we are uplifting certain items as opposed to cheering about the "Crap Item Smackdown."
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