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Just a couple questions that I want to make sure I know how they will be ruled before I try it.
I've been told I can't take Improved Natural Attack even if I make a natural weapon combatant like a ranger, beast totem barbarian, wild shaping druid, or abyssal bloodrager.
1a) Is this true?
1b) Could a summoner have his eidolon take it?
I have a concept for a Gnome pistolero using a human sized pistol and a human sized maul as a backup weapon.
2a) Can I purchase, use, and enchant a weapon not sized for me?
2b) Does it cost more?
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1a. Feats from the Bestiary are not legal unless access is granted by another legal source. If your class choice offers Improved Natural Attack as a bonus feat or similar, you may take it.
1b. Unlikely. Eidolons have no better access to feats than PCs.
2a. Yes, if that size is Small, Medium or Large.
2b. The monetary cost of a weapon doesn't change based on the size of its owner, no. You'll take the usual penalty for using a weapon not sized for you, which could be considered a cost.
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... If your class choice offers Improved Natural Attack as a bonus feat or similar, you may take it. ...
Is there a class or other source that allows me to take it? I don't remember one.
... You'll take the usual penalty for using a weapon not sized for you, which could be considered a cost.
The gun would be targeting touch attacks so doesn't seem like it should be too awful. The maul would almost never be used, mostly just carried for the imagined visual effect.
... If your class choice offers Improved Natural Attack as a bonus feat or similar, you may take it. ...Is there a class or other source that allows me to take it? I don't remember one.
... You'll take the usual penalty for using a weapon not sized for you, which could be considered a cost.The gun would be targeting touch attacks so doesn't seem like it should be too awful. The maul would almost never be used, mostly just carried for the imagined visual effect.
Natural weapon combat style for ranger opens Improved Natural Attack up as a one of your 3 combat style feats you gain.
Eidolons do not get this feat, as they already have an evolution that works like it (Improved Damage).
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I'm having trouble finding this maul you are talking about. Do you mean a warhammer?
Or do you mean the Piston Maul? In that case you cannot use a human (medium) sized version as a gnome (small race), because it's a twohanded weapon which would require three hands for a small race.
Is that the only way to get it? I suppose I could take a 2 level dip into ranger, but it wasn't really what I wanted to do....
Natural weapon combat style for ranger opens Improved Natural Attack up as a one of your 3 combat style feats you gain. ...
It's the only way that I know of off the top of my head. There might very well be another class/archetype/option that offers it as well, but I can't think of any.
EDIT: It's not necessarily THAT strong of an option either. Most times it's just a step up in dice which is an avg. of +1 pt of damage on one attack type for a feat. Depends on what the character concept really on if it is worth it to you.
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Is that the only way to get it? I suppose I could take a 2 level dip into ranger, but it wasn't really what I wanted to do....
Natural weapon combat style for ranger opens Improved Natural Attack up as a one of your 3 combat style feats you gain. ...It's the only way that I know of off the top of my head. There might very well be another class/archetype/option that offers it as well, but I can't think of any.
EDIT: It's not necessarily THAT strong of an option either. Most times it's just a step up in dice which is an avg. of +1 pt of damage on one attack type for a feat. Depends on what the character concept really on if it is worth it to you.
Slayer can get Ranger Combat Styles as well.
Slayer can get Ranger Combat Styles as well.Is that the only way to get it? I suppose I could take a 2 level dip into ranger, but it wasn't really what I wanted to do....
Natural weapon combat style for ranger opens Improved Natural Attack up as a one of your 3 combat style feats you gain. ...It's the only way that I know of off the top of my head. There might very well be another class/archetype/option that offers it as well, but I can't think of any.
EDIT: It's not necessarily THAT strong of an option either. Most times it's just a step up in dice which is an avg. of +1 pt of damage on one attack type for a feat. Depends on what the character concept really on if it is worth it to you.
Well, there you go. I figured there'd be some other way to get to it...just wasn't familiar with any ;)
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Ok, I was considering an abyssal/aberrant bloodrager going for pure natural weapon combat with extended reach. With the size and other things it ends up being more than just a +1. Also it's kool.
I will stat it up and see if I prefer a dip into slayer, a dip into ranger, or doing without improved natural attack.
Thanks folks.
I have a concept for a Gnome pistolero using a human sized pistol and a human sized maul as a backup weapon.
2a) Can I purchase, use, and enchant a weapon not sized for me?
The text of the rule is, "The size of a firearm never affects how many hands you need to use to shoot it." The intent of that rule was to prevent a Medium character from using a Small rifle as a one-handed pistol; it wasn’t intended to let a Medium character use a Large, Huge, Gargantuan, or Colossal two-handed firearm as a two-handed weapon. Just like with non-firearms, a creature cannot wield a weapon that’s far too big or small for it. Specifically in the case of firearms, a Medium character can’t use a two-handed firearm sized for a Large or larger creature, and a Small character can’t use a two-handed firearm sized for a Medium or larger creature.
Looks like it's okay.