A player in one of my games is telling me that all Small size and smaller animals automatically get to substitute Dexterity for Strength on Attack Bonus, so the Weapon Finesse feat listed for them is superfluous. Is that true?
No. For example, see the armadillo.
Creatures that are size Tiny or smaller use their Dexterity modifier in place of their Strength modifier to determine their CMB.
So Tiny creatures at least get Dex to CMB. I think they do get it to attack as well, but I'm not sure where that's written.
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Also, there is a rule for familiars:
Attacks: Use the master's base attack bonus, as calculated from all his classes. Use the familiar's Dexterity or Strength modifier, whichever is greater, to calculate the familiar's melee attack bonus with natural weapons.
Small or smaller creatures gain a size bonus to attack rolls that (in most cases) compensate their low STR. They still need 'Weapon Finesse' for DEX to hit on melee attacks. (exceptions are familiars)
Your attack bonus with a melee weapon is the following:
Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier
Their is a size modifier table that gives you following bonuses:
small +1, Tiny +2, Diminutive +4, Fine +8
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Creatures that are size Tiny or smaller use their Dexterity modifier in place of their Strength modifier to determine their CMB.So Tiny creatures at least get Dex to CMB. I think they do get it to attack as well, but I'm not sure where that's written.
Which is frankly ridiculous. (I agree that you're correct on the rules - it's just ridiculous.) It makes it so that housecats have a good shot of bullrushing gnomes.
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Which is frankly ridiculous. (I agree that you're correct on the rules - it's just ridiculous.) It makes it so that housecats have a good shot of bullrushing gnomes.Creatures that are size Tiny or smaller use their Dexterity modifier in place of their Strength modifier to determine their CMB.So Tiny creatures at least get Dex to CMB. I think they do get it to attack as well, but I'm not sure where that's written.
You've never had a cat tangle itself between your feet?
It makes it so that housecats have a good shot of bullrushing gnomes.
This needs to be written into Paizo's next AP.
Which is frankly ridiculous. (I agree that you're correct on the rules - it's just ridiculous.) It makes it so that housecats have a good shot of bullrushing gnomes.Creatures that are size Tiny or smaller use their Dexterity modifier in place of their Strength modifier to determine their CMB.So Tiny creatures at least get Dex to CMB. I think they do get it to attack as well, but I'm not sure where that's written.
I've had a housecat come close to bullrushing my 300lb self. No problem believing it could be done to a sub-60lb gnome.
Didn't that happen in a movie once? Housecat against a leprechaun or imp or something. I'm thinking it's that 80's series-of-bizarre stories one. Clean-freak guy gets invaded by bugs, some dude betting people's lives that they can't make him laugh...
Which is frankly ridiculous. (I agree that you're correct on the rules - it's just ridiculous.) It makes it so that housecats have a good shot of bullrushing gnomes.
I used to have a cat that would do that to kids who would come over.