Spell Lists Drive Me Nuts


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You want your bard to know a spell that other bards don't know, because it's thematically appropriate. Fair enough. But it's also thematically appropriate for fantasy characters to gain new magic through adventuring rather than having it handed to them. So my answer is still that you can't just write the spell onto your character sheet, but you can go on a quest to try and acquire it.


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JoeJ wrote:

You want your bard to know a spell that other bards don't know, because it's thematically appropriate. Fair enough. But it's also thematically appropriate for fantasy characters to gain new magic through adventuring rather than having it handed to them. So my answer is still that you can't just write the spell onto your character sheet, but you can go on a quest to try and acquire it.

Sorry, JoeJ - I should have responded to you directly, although I do think I favorite-ed your post about this, which I intended to be taken as a sign of general agreement. I agree that such an approach can be fun, and doesn't necessarily presume that the player is just trying to game the system, and I wholeheartedly support the idea that using player (and character) motivations as quest hooks as a way to generate fun adventures.

In fact, your post was (IIRC) almost a perfect example of what a neutral approach might look like in practice - instead of assuming just "yes" or "no", you found a way to play it that meant everyone at the table would "win" by virtue of having a fun reason to go adventuring.

The only minor caveat I would have here is that I don't think I would ALWAYS handle it this way (which, to be clear, is not really what think you are advocating), but certainly it's a valid approach.


MrTsFloatinghead wrote:
JoeJ wrote:

You want your bard to know a spell that other bards don't know, because it's thematically appropriate. Fair enough. But it's also thematically appropriate for fantasy characters to gain new magic through adventuring rather than having it handed to them. So my answer is still that you can't just write the spell onto your character sheet, but you can go on a quest to try and acquire it.

Sorry, JoeJ - I should have responded to you directly, although I do think I favorite-ed your post about this, which I intended to be taken as a sign of general agreement. I agree that such an approach can be fun, and doesn't necessarily presume that the player is just trying to game the system, and I wholeheartedly support the idea that using player (and character) motivations as quest hooks as a way to generate fun adventures.

In fact, your post was (IIRC) almost a perfect example of what a neutral approach might look like in practice - instead of assuming just "yes" or "no", you found a way to play it that meant everyone at the table would "win" by virtue of having a fun reason to go adventuring.

The only minor caveat I would have here is that I don't think I would ALWAYS handle it this way (which, to be clear, is not really what think you are advocating), but certainly it's a valid approach.

I wouldn't handle every request that way either. Some things I would simply say yes to ("Can I start out with a parrot that rides on my shoulder and doesn't know any tricks?"). Other requests I would simply refuse ("Can I have Thor's hammer?").

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LoneKnave wrote:
@MrTsFloatinghead: You are wasting your breath. You can not convince someone who has made up his mind with arguments, no matter how good/right they are.
Or convince someone who knows the rules, regardless of how much you bluster.
You are incredible.

Why, yes I am, but that is off topic.

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