Creating NPCs

[Benkalas]

The rules to create NPC set two series of ability scores one basic and heroic.
If we use buy point to get the heroic NPC series we use 15 buy point (Standard Fantasy)
If i want to use Epic Fantasy buy point for a NPC ability scores how does the CR increase?!?

[wraithstrike]

25 point buy is a +1 CR for NPC's.

[Benkalas]

wraithstrike wrote:

25 point buy is a +1 CR for NPC's.

This stack with the +1 of a heroic NPC; so a NPC with class level and 25 point buy point has a +2 CR ?!?

[wraithstrike]

Benkalas wrote:

wraithstrike wrote:

25 point buy is a +1 CR for NPC's.

This stack with the +1 of a heroic NPC; so a NPC with class level and 25 point buy point has a +2 CR ?!?

No. The heroic stat array in the rule book is based on 15 point buy. This is more limiting than using an actual point buy, but that also skews the chances of success in favor of the PC's which is intentional game design.

In AP's if they use 25 point buy the CR adjustment is +1.

Example:

Level 5 fighter using the heroic stat array is a CR 4

Level 5 fighter using 25 point buy is CR 5

[Benkalas]

wraithstrike wrote:

Benkalas wrote:

wraithstrike wrote:

25 point buy is a +1 CR for NPC's.

This stack with the +1 of a heroic NPC; so a NPC with class level and 25 point buy point has a +2 CR ?!?

No. The heroic stat array in the rule book is based on 15 point buy. This is more limiting than using an actual point buy, but that also skews the chances of success in favor of the PC's which is intentional game design.

In AP's if they use 25 point buy the CR adjustment is +1.

Example:

Level 5 fighter using the heroic stat array is a CR 4

Level 5 fighter using 25 point buy is CR 5

You say no but in example you made is yes

CR of NPC is lv.-2
if he has class level he has +1 CR (lv.-1)
if he has 25 buy point it has a +1 CR (so CR=lv.)

[Daenar]

Sounds good to me.

[Benkalas]

Daenar wrote:

Sounds good to me.

On an italian forum advise me about the Exceptional Stats (Ex} special ability ( PAP #74 pag 60) and the CR of Staunton Vhane (CR 10) confirm what i write

CR of Staunton Vhane = 6 (lv.-2)
+1 CR for antipaladin level (7)
+1 CR for 25 buy point (8)
+1 CR for PG equipment (9)
+1 CR for half of his Mythic Tier (10)

[Lakesidefantasy]

If a Non Player Character only has levels in a Non Player Character class (warrior, adept, expert, et.) then they use the Basic ability score array and their Challenge rating is Level -2. The Basic ability score array is equivalent to a 3 point buy.

If a Non Player Character has any levels in a Player Character class (Fighter, Wizard, Rogue, etc.) then they use the Heroic ability score array and their Challenge rating is Level -1. The Heroic ability score array is equivalent to a 15 point buy.

If a 25 point buy ability score array adds 1 to the Challenge Rating, then a Non Player Character with any Player Character class levels would have a Challenge Rating equal to their level.