RAW doesn't really cover if the gods grant power. After all, if gods are the only source, where do they clerics of ideals come from? And they do exist in Pathfinder.
By RAW, yes they do.
However, that's only allowed by GM FIAT. In other words, it's not really a common, permissible rule. (There's also no incentive to NOT worship a deity mechanically, since it gives you free reign with Domain selections.) No Cleric in PFS (or in any other AP/Campaign) can not worship a deity, and it's basically for balance purposes (though there are flavor purposes too).
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You can take a bath. What is the worst that can happen? You contract a B.S. in Psychology and do nothing with it?
RAW doesn't really cover if the gods grant power. After all, if gods are the only source, where do they clerics of ideals come from? And they do exist in Pathfinder.By RAW, yes they do.
Wait, are you saying RAW they have to worship a god, or RAW they don't? Because the rules pretty clearly state you can, as long as this isn't PFS.
Wait, are you saying RAW they have to worship a god, or RAW they don't? Because the rules pretty clearly state you can, as long as this isn't PFS.RAW doesn't really cover if the gods grant power. After all, if gods are the only source, where do they clerics of ideals come from? And they do exist in Pathfinder.By RAW, yes they do.
While the vast majority of clerics revere a specific deity, a small number dedicate themselves to a divine concept worthy of devotion—such as battle, death, justice, or knowledge—free of a deific abstraction. (Work with your GM if you prefer this path to selecting a specific deity.)
A cleric chooses two domains from among those belonging to her deity. A cleric can select an alignment domain (Chaos, Evil, Good, or Law) only if her alignment matches that domain. If a cleric is not devoted to a particular deity, she still selects two domains to represent her spiritual inclinations and abilities ().
Looks like for Clerics to not worship a deity, it must be backed by GM FIAT. Otherwise, you have you worship a deity; it's that simple.
What I meant by that post was that yes, non-deity clerics can be allowed, and the rules expand on them. However, RAW says it requires GM FIAT to work, otherwise it just won't work.
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Wait, are you saying RAW they have to worship a god, or RAW they don't? Because the rules pretty clearly state you can, as long as this isn't PFS.RAW doesn't really cover if the gods grant power. After all, if gods are the only source, where do they clerics of ideals come from? And they do exist in Pathfinder.By RAW, yes they do.
While the vast majority of clerics revere a specific deity, a small number dedicate themselves to a divine concept worthy of devotion—such as battle, death, justice, or knowledge—free of a deific abstraction. (Work with your GM if you prefer this path to selecting a specific deity.)A cleric chooses two domains from among those belonging to her deity. A cleric can select an alignment domain (Chaos, Evil, Good, or Law) only if her alignment matches that domain. If a cleric is not devoted to a particular deity, she still selects two domains to represent her spiritual inclinations and abilities ().Looks like for Clerics to not worship a deity, it must be backed by GM FIAT. Otherwise, you have you worship a deity; it's that simple.
What I meant by that post was that yes, non-deity clerics can be allowed, and the rules expand on them. However, RAW says it requires GM FIAT to work, otherwise it just won't work.
What he means is that some DMs will be all "Yo, you need a god," while others will be all, "Psh, gods shods. You van worship Logic if you want!"
Technically everything you do is subject to GM approval, so the clause is more or less saying, "Hey, you know you should carry on a healthy conversation with your GM. They kind of like knowing what kind of characters you are playing."So, in a way, the contested clause is more or less saying, "don't be that guy who just shows up with a character built from his 'interpretation' of the rules, but instead find out what your GM's interpretation is."
Also, since when did this even become an issue?
Are other GMs just lazy and don't want to at least know a little bit about the party that is going to be playing with them? Hell, when I GM half the fun is learning about the characters and trying to offer how, where, and why the character is there and who they may or may not know among the NPC list.