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is stone to flesh edible?

I mean what kind of flesh is it? is it all the same kind of flesh? are portions of it muscle, while others organs, and others are bone? what defines flesh? and is it safe to eat?


The rules do not say. This is a GM call. Most raw meat/flesh is not safe to eat for humans though.


wraithstrike wrote:
The rules do not say. This is a GM call. Most raw meat/flesh is not safe to eat for humans though.

You can cook it, I imagine. :P

I wonder if different types of stone produce different flavours of meat? A light gypsum, or a succulent basalt this evening?


Not sure this constitutes 'rules' ...

I would assume it is edible, but utterly bland.


Scythia wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:
The rules do not say. This is a GM call. Most raw meat/flesh is not safe to eat for humans though.

You can cook it, I imagine. :P

I wonder if different types of stone produce different flavours of meat? A light gypsum, or a succulent basalt this evening?

A restaurant for the adventurer who thinks they've done everything and has gold to burn.

-S


Selgard wrote:
Scythia wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:
The rules do not say. This is a GM call. Most raw meat/flesh is not safe to eat for humans though.

You can cook it, I imagine. :P

I wonder if different types of stone produce different flavours of meat? A light gypsum, or a succulent basalt this evening?

A restaurant for the adventurer who thinks they've done everything and has gold to burn.

-S

You'd need to research metal to flesh for that.

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Purify Food & Drink
Prestidigitation

Problems solved.


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If I were the GM and a player asked me this, I'd pretty much be smacking my head against a wall over and over again until he stopped asking.
Technically speaking when cooked I guess that it would be edible.


Sounds delicious!!! And high in calcium!!!!

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I will never starve in a dungeon again.


It would be a great way to solve forgetting to bring trail rations.


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Obligatory : "Tastes like chicken!"

Otherwise it's entirely your call. I'd say it tastes like something completely unexpected. It may be edible or it may be toxic (think fugu). It may be nutritious, or it may be very low cal. Different stones, different flavors, different edibility. And would mud count as gravy?

A geologist could have a lot of fun with this.

Thinking in game setting terms, dwarves or other races with stone affinity may already have used this method in lean times or spiritual reasons, and may have already cataloged all the nutritional values of stones.

PS: Calculated that a single casting, at maximum size (~70ft³ cylinder) gives you about 2 tons of flesh/food... and makes me think of portion sizes in the Flintstones.


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Not a balanced diet, though. You need Stone to Vegetable, too.


I thought The Question - the oldest question, which must not be answered and is hidden in plain sight - is "Doctor who?"


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Day 61 of the siege-
Our supply train has been interrupted for over three weeks, and the last remaining rations were consumed six days ago. Due to the military activity, game is non-existent. We thought this was the end.

Today, our apprentice battlemage found an old scroll stashed in the back of his late mentor's book: Stone to Flesh. Tonight, he'll use it on wall, and follow it with burning hands.

Tonight we feast, then we take the city.

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Anguish wrote:
I thought The Question - the oldest question, which must not be answered and is hidden in plain sight - is "Doctor who?"

"Despite having heard that same question a profane number of times, I still have yet to meet the originator of the trend. I will mount their head on a plaque just like I did with the mustache of a certain obnoxious halfling so many moons ago. After all, I do pride myself in my ability to combine taxidermy and alternative medicine into a veritable art, even though the academy ruled it as willful medical malpractice. Oh well. Care to volunteer for an experimental research study? I assure you that while it will cost an arm and a leg, you will be compensated twofold in full."


I've actually been planning to use stone-to-flesh as a plot device in a thing, where someone tries to intimidate a wizard by telling him that something is "human flesh, seasoned with the tears of the damned". The wizard takes it as a challenge...


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Well it explains where kebabs come from a cylinder of nondescript flesh 1-3 feet in diameter and up to 10 feet long yep that sounds line a donner to me
Also explains why it needs loads of chili sauce to give it flavour


Lamentations of the Flame Princess has a legend that the rock that makes up the planet come because a group of medusas petrified it... And if one of them is killed, anything she petrified is restored to flesh...


Cinodem "the Doctor" Noyllopa wrote:
"Despite having heard that same question a profane number of times, I still have yet to meet the originator of the trend.

In this particular instance, given the manner in which I delivered it, you'd be looking for Stephen Moffat... the current producer of the show. See... that question was rather a big plot point for the last three episodes culminating the 50th anniversary.

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I will mount their head on a plaque just like I did with the mustache of a certain obnoxious halfling so many moons ago. After all, I do pride myself in my ability to combine taxidermy and alternative medicine into a veritable art, even though the academy ruled it as willful medical malpractice. Oh well. Care to volunteer for an experimental research study? I assure you that while it will cost an arm and a leg, you will be compensated twofold in full."

Well, how about "no"?


So... Would a Stone to Flesh'd statue qualify for the Cook People hex?


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I think I like where this went. seriously though, upon finding this spell, my first thought was "can i eat it?"


I believe it tastes like despair.

Relevant Better off Ted clip

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I wonder how this effects Stone weapons.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
I wonder how this effects Stone weapons.

Simple. It fails a save (Does FtS grant a save?), it turns into a nice juicy meat sword (or axe, or whatever). Your pet tiger is now much more motivated.

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A Half-Orc with big floppy flesh greatclub, is kind of intimidating.


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This is a family friendly site. Please do not talk about your meat sword.


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How has the thread gotten this far without a spam reference?

Shame. Shame on you all.

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Gives new meaning to the phrase "a well-marbled steak."


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You people have never played Nethack, have you?

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Dave Justus wrote:
This is a family friendly site. Please do not talk about your meat sword.

You suggesting an innuendo? Just about anything, with a little imagination, can be one.

Sometimes, a meat club, is just a meat club.

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Makes obligatory reference to spam


Great, Alacor, you turned a stone that was on the floor next to an Orc pile....


So...if I'm following this, in my last session, a paladin was turned to stone (rolled a 1, go figure). If the group turns him back to flesh, he'll now taste like chicken. This should be official.

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Oladon wrote:

You people have never played Nethack, have you?

I had considered saying something about that but was not sure if it would be understood. I loved it whenever I found a wand for it or the spell if I had a wizard. It would help with those boulders I could not move.


Gwaithador wrote:
So...if I'm following this, in my last session, a paladin was turned to stone (rolled a 1, go figure). If the group turns him back to flesh, he'll now taste like chicken. This should be official.

According to cannibals, and this is official, humans taste like chicken, among other things. They hate eating Americans, since we're too darn salty. Japanese are perfectly fine to eat...

At least, according to the cannibals that were on that one island during WWII and kept eating the Japanese stationed there....

That said, I am so going to have a small stand with an NPC. Sells 'Chicken Nuggets'.... I'll save the big reveal for after the game.


Artemis Moonstar wrote:
Gwaithador wrote:
So...if I'm following this, in my last session, a paladin was turned to stone (rolled a 1, go figure). If the group turns him back to flesh, he'll now taste like chicken. This should be official.

According to cannibals, and this is official, humans taste like chicken, among other things. They hate eating Americans, since we're too darn salty. Japanese are perfectly fine to eat...

At least, according to the cannibals that were on that one island during WWII and kept eating the Japanese stationed there....

That said, I am so going to have a small stand with an NPC. Sells 'Chicken Nuggets'.... I'll save the big reveal for after the game.

Actually, according to cannibals, humans taste like Spam >.>


Must depend on the cannibal and the breed of human. Not everyone can be a Kobe steak, eh?

That said... I still want to know if my witch can Flesh to Stone a statue of some intelligent humanoid, then use it for the Cook People hex.... Or would I have to wait for a Medusa's lair for that?


"The spell also can convert a mass of stone into a fleshy substance"

Search rules. Word substance refer alchemical liquid 99% time.

Which alchemical liquid is "fleshy"? hint hint

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DesolateHarmony wrote:
Makes obligatory reference to spam

My pre-3E gaming group actually decided the spell created Spam®.


Ah, so a human tastes like chicken, thanks to our cannibal taste testers (shudder) but what about elves? Halflings? And so on? I'm going with pork for Half-Orcs. :)

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I think the precedent is that any spell that could conceivably create food is either unsafe to eat or not nourishing unless the text explicitly says so. On the other hand, that's a pretty high level spell.


Purify food and water should take care of that issue. Just think... you could have 1-ton steaks...


I'd say "yes", if purified and prepared, as suggested.

Zhayne wrote:
I would assume it is edible, but utterly bland.

Reminds me of Jeff Goldblum's teleporter epiphany scene in [i[The Fly[/i]. You know, the one with the steak... Also, this turns Alive into (an entirely fictuous) We Ate A Mountain.

I can see the RP potential.
Pally: "Forsooth! Our reviled rival hath closed yonder gates! We are well and truly barred from progress!"
Wizzy (trippin' bawlz): "...why not just, like, eat the WALL man? Y'know?" *cast*

That's it. My next character is a stone-to-slesh-then-summon-carnivores wizard.


This also makes me think of the great and horrifying season 3 episode of Farscape,

Spoiler:
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This has come up in my game, and the general ruling has been yes but its disgusting wall meat. Just because its flesh doesnt mean you WANT to eat it. It might still taste like rocks lol. I guess as mentioned magic can fix that by purifying it and flavoring it.


Maud Pie, a My Little Pony character would say,"What's wrong with the taste of rocks?"
She eats rocks.


Kolokotroni wrote:
This has come up in my game, and the general ruling has been yes but its disgusting wall meat. Just because its flesh doesnt mean you WANT to eat it. It might still taste like rocks lol.

Gives a new meaning to Stone Soup


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further question is it one giant slab or meat mush.


This has come up in my campaign, too. My ruling was this: The material component is a drop of blood mixed with earth. So what kind of flesh it becomes depends on what kind of blood you use. A human wizard who pricks his finger for the blood gets a wall of human flesh. A wizard who uncorks his vial of cow's blood for the spell gets beef.

One of my players planned to open a restaurant using Wall of Stone and Stone to Flesh to get free meat.

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