Is this
This work in progress gets you everything in the bestiary, including the final, compiled PDF.
http://paizo.com/products/btpy8rmg?Psionic-Bestiary-Work-in-Progress
the same as
http://dreamscarredpress.com/dragonfly/Store/product/pid=127.html
No, the work in progress is only the pdf, it's not the printed book. We'd be losing money if we only charged $10 for a printed color book.
Oops I didn't clarify, but it looks like you answered my intended question anyway :).
I meant are those the same content when released, which it seems they are.
I pre ordered the softcover because I prefer physical bestiaries.
It's official. Dragon statblocks are the least fun of all to proofread. Makes sense since you're taking a base creature and advancing it, but... no fun at all. This is going to take some time.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Young Lorican Dragon
According to the documentation I've got, a young lorican dragon gains DR5/magic. This appears missing from this statblock.
Evasion should be noted on this creature's saving throws line. Same for stalwart. I get it the suit's customization are listed in defensive abilities but... shouldn't be, I'd think. Too much clutter. I'd recommend customizations be listed down in SQ somewhere, and the impact they have be noted where it belongs. For instance, "brawn" should only appear down in SQ because it modifies Str.
8th level astral armor is a mwk breastplate which has ACP -3. Flexible suit brings that down to ACP -2, not the -1 indicated.
I can't figure out where the rule is coming from that allows the lorican dragon to ignore the speed reduction imposed by medium armor.
Also, an 8th-level aegis gets 11 customization points but I count 12 in use.
0 Brawn
2 Brawn
1 Evasion
0 Flexible Suit
2 Fortification
0 Improved Damage
2 Nimble
3 Reach
1 Retaliate
1 Stalwart
Skills line... I calculate four too few ranks allocated. Likely Fly should be +12. Also, Sense Motive should be shown (at +10).
8+3+2+8 Bluff +21
8+3+2 Diplomacy +13
6(ranks)+3(class)+3(Dex)-2(ACP) Fly +10
8+3+1 Knowledge (Planes) +12
8+3+1 Knowledge (Psionic) +12
8+3+1 Knowledge (Religion) +12
8+3+2 Perception +13
=54 (should be 56)
Racial Modifiers draconic guile (+8 Bluff, Sense Motive)
Lorican dragons do not lose their ablity to fly while wearing their astral suits, and do not suffer a reduction in speed when utilizing the astral armor form.
Armor speed thing is from there.
Two. Two too few ranks allocated. Didn't mean four.
And thank you for the reference. That sentence does not appear in the copy I'd downloaded. I'll have to refresh what I have for working material.
I'm continuing to confine my attention to math/build issues and not formatting, since I imagine a bunch of stuff has already been caught by Jeremy as he's doing layout. I will happily review formatting once the finalized statblocks are available.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Adult Lorican Dragon
14th level astral armor is a mwk breastplate which has ACP -3. Flexible suit brings that down to ACP -2, not the -1 indicated.
Ranged attack appears to be missing the size penalty to its attack rolls. Also, this ability is listed as an actual attack (here), thus doesn't need to be in Special Attacks.
Ranged Ranged Attack customization +16/+11/+6 ranged (1d8 piercing, 30 ft. range increment)
Breath weapon DC should be 10 + 1/2 hit dice (7) + Con modifier (6), which is 23.
Power Points per day... I'm probably missing something but a 1st-level psywar gets 1pp and a Wis of 18 grants 1 bonus pp, which is 2, total, not the 3 shown.
Skills line... as far as I can tell, this creature is missing 23 skill points.
14 + 3 (class) +4 (Cha) + 14 (racial) Bluff +35
14 + 3 (class) +4 (Cha) Diplomacy +21
14 + 3 (class) +3 (Dex) -2 (size) -4 (poor) Fly +14
9 + 3 (class) + 3 (Int) Knowledge (Planes) +15
9 + 3 (class) + 3 (Int)Knowledge (Psionic) +15
9 + 3 (class) + 3 (Int)Knowledge (Religion) +15
11 + 3 (class) + 4 (Wis) Perception +18
14 + 3 (class) +4 (Wis) + 14 (racial) Sense Motive +35
9 + 3 (class) + 3 (Int) Spellcraft +15
=103 (should be 126)
Racial Modifiers draconic guile (+14 Bluff, Sense Motive)
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Ancient Lorican Dragon
22nd level astral armor is a mwk breastplate which has ACP -3. Flexible suit brings that down to ACP -2, not the -1 indicated.
Saving throws. 22 hit die dragon has base +13 to all saves.
Fort +22; Ref +18; Will +19
Breath weapon should be 10 Intelligence and Wisdom damage due to age category multiplier. Also, DC should be 10 + 1/2 hit dice (11) + Con modifier (9) plus Ability Focus (2), which is 32. Note: crush DC is correct as noted.
Melee attacks appear to be missing half the size penalty to its attack rolls. BAB 22 + Str 16 + size -2 + mwk 1 = 37.
Melee bite +37 melee (2d8+29 plus soul disruption), 2 claws +37 melee (2d6+21 plus soul disrution), 2 wings +35 melee (1d8+13 plus soul
disruption), tail slap +35 melee (2d6+29 plus soul disruption)
Ranged attack appears to be missing the size penalty to its attack rolls. BAB 22 + Dex 3 + size -2 = 23.
Ranged Ranged Attack customization +23/+18/+13/+8/+3 ranged (4d8 piercing, 30 ft. range increment)
A 20th level aegis gets 26 customization points but I count 27 in use:
0 Brawn
2 Brawn
2 Brawn
2 Crystallized Weapon
1 Evasion
0 Flexible Suit
2 Fortification
2 Hardy
1 Improved Armor
0 Improved Damage
2 Improved Ranged Attack
2 Nimble
2 Nimble
2 Nimble
1 Ranged Attack
3 Reach
1 Retaliate
1 Stalwart
1 Underwater Breath
Manifesting line... says this dragon manifests as a 1st-level psywar but it should be 9th.
Power Points per day... I'm probably missing something but a 9th-level psywar gets 17pp and a Wis of 24 grants 36 bonus pp, which is 60, total, not the 51 shown.
CMB appears to be missing size modifier.
Base Atk +22; CMB +40; CMD 53
Skills line... I calculate six too few skill points allocated.
22 + 6 (Wis) Autohypnosis +28
22 + 3 (class) + 6 (Cha) + 22 (racial) Bluff +53
22 + 3 (class) + 6 Diplomacy +31
19 + 3 (class) + 3 (Dex) -4 (size) -4 (poor) Fly +17
22 + 3 (class) + 5 (Int) Knowledge (Local) +30
22 + 3 (class) + 5 (Int) Knowledge (Planes) +30
22 + 3 (class) + 5 (Int) Knowledge (Psionic) +30
22 + 3 (class) + 5 (Int) Knowledge (Religion) +30
19 + 3 (class) + 6 (Wis) Perception +28
22 + 3 (class) + 6 (Wis) + 22 (racial) Sense Motive +53
22 + 3 (class) + 5 (Int) Spellcraft +30
=236 (should be 242)
Racial Modifiers draconic guile (+22 Bluff, Sense Motive)
Languages... the adult lorican dragon got his extra languages as his Int went up so this guy should too. He needs two more.
I should be able to get the cypher dragons done Thursday night. Let me know if you need a hand generating any of the other types... I - in theory - have time Friday night and Sunday of this weekend.
I believe Jade is working on the Imagos already, but I have a feeling he would very much appreciate help on the Keris.
No, I've got Keris in hand. Keris may in fact be the only one of these five that does not insist on being a problem child, if only because I can actually use psionic feats for it. Imagos will be similar in the Adult & Ancient stages.
Scourge dragon is post'd.
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Imagos dragons have now been added. Now to wrap up Keris and call 'em good, aside from edits for math/formatting/etc.
[Psychic god-lizard intensifies]
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Young Cypher Dragon
It is my pleasure to say that I am unable to find anything mathematically or logically incorrect on this statblock.
EDIT: Um. Except that having Dex 12, this creature doesn't qualify for Dodge, which means it also doesn't qualify for Psionic Dodge.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Adult Cypher Dragon
Melee line... this dragon appears to have had his size penalty to attacks applied twice. BAB (14) + Str (6) + size (-1) = +19
bite +19 melee (2d6+9), 2 claws +19 melee (1d8+6), 2 wings +17 melee (1d6+3), tail slap +17 melee (1d8+9)
This dragon appears to be missing his size bonus to CMB. BAB (14) plus Str (6) plus size (1) = +21. His CMD is correct, assuming he keeps his dodge bonus, more about which momentarily.
Having Dex 10, this creature doesn't qualify for Dodge, which means it also doesn't qualify for Psionic Dodge. That impacts AC and CMD.
Skills...
Everything works out correctly except:
1} This dragon appears to be missing his size penalty to Stealth. (14 ranks + 3 class + 0 Dex -4 size = +13)
2} This dragon appears to be missing his size penalty to Fly. (14 ranks + 3 class + 0 Dex -2 size -4 poor = +9)
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Ancient Cypher Dragon
XP line is blank, should be 102,400
Init/Senses line... Perception is noted as +21 but is +31 in Skills line. +31 is the correct value.
HP line, 22 hit dice times Con (+8) & Toughness is 198 bonus hit points, not 188. The average (341) is, however, correct.
Hp 341 (22d12+198)
Psi-Like Abilities
I'm not sure about the DC for dream travel. Starting as a 6th-level dread power costing 11 power points, the DC is 10 + 6 + 6 (Cha), for DC 22.
This dragon appears to be missing his size bonus to CMB. BAB (22) plus Str (10) plus size (2) = +33. His CMD is off as well. It should be an additional +11 (10 -1 Dex +2 dodge) assuming he keeps his dodge bonus, more about which momentarily.
Having Dex 8, this creature doesn't qualify for Dodge, which means it also doesn't qualify for Psionic Dodge. That impacts AC and CMD.
Skills...
Everything works out correctly except:
1} This dragon appears to be missing his size penalty to Stealth. (22 ranks + 3 class - 1 Dex -8 size = +16)
2} This dragon appears to be missing his size penalty to Fly. (22 ranks + 3 class - 1 Dex -4 size -4 poor = +16)
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Young Scourge Dragon
Power Points per day... a 1st-level dread gets 1 and Int 14 buys another 1 for a total of 2, not the 3 indicated.
Skills...
I count 9 skills that have been maxed out. The math is all correct, with all bonuses and penalties accounted for but... an Int 14 dragon can max out 8 skills. There seems to be one too many.
On Cypher dragon and Stealth - Occultation knocks out the size penalties to Stealth, see beta doc.
On Scourge:
Power Points/Day: A dread's ability to manifest powers is limited by the power points she has available. Her base daily allotment of power points is given on Table: The Dread. In addition, she receives bonus power points per day if she has a high Charisma score. Her race may also provide bonus power points per day, as may certain feats and items.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Adult Scourge Dragon
Terrors... the DC is 10 + 1/2 dread's level (dragon hit dice) + Cha. So 10 + 8 + 6 = 24, not the stated DC 25.
Power Points per day... a 7th-level dread gets 16 and Cha 22 buys another 10 for a total of 26, not the 37 indicated.
Psi-Like Abilities...
id insinuation is a 2nd-level power (3 power points), so 10 + 2 + Cha (6) = base DC of 18. Then it can be augmented up another 14 power points to hit our manifester level 17th. That's 7 augments, increasing the DC by 7 and the number of targets by 7. So I figure the DC should be 25 (not 26) and it should apply to 8 targets (not 9). But maybe I'm missing something.
Skills...
I count 11 skills that have been maxed out. The math is mostly correct, with all bonuses and penalties accounted for but... an Int 18 dragon can max out 10 skills. There seems to be one too many. Fly should be +13.
17 ranks +3 class +1 Dex -4 size -4 poor Fly +10
On Cypher dragon and Stealth - Occultation knocks out the size penalties to Stealth, see beta doc.
On Scourge:
Power Points/Day: A dread's ability to manifest powers is limited by the power points she has available. Her base daily allotment of power points is given on Table: The Dread. In addition, she receives bonus power points per day if she has a high Charisma score. Her race may also provide bonus power points per day, as may certain feats and items.
Yeah, I caught that during the next dragon (as you can see from the block I just posted). Doesn't change that the bonus pp is still only 1.
And Keris dragons are up! They have psicrystals.
Power Points per day... I'm probably missing something but a 1st-level psywar gets 1pp and a Wis of 18 grants 1 bonus pp, which is 2, total, not the 3 shown.
So, I'm double-checking all the stat blocks against your feedback and wanted to point out that Wis 18 grants 2 bonus PPs. :)
Power Points per day... I'm probably missing something but a 1st-level psywar gets 1pp and a Wis of 18 grants 1 bonus pp, which is 2, total, not the 3 shown.So, I'm double-checking all the stat blocks against your feedback and wanted to point out that Wis 18 grants 2 bonus PPs. :)
Definitely glad you are. I don't expect to be any less human than the original authors.
Good catch.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Ancient Scourge Dragon
XP line... a CR 19 creature awards 204,800 XP
Init/Senses line... this dragon has Improved Initiative and Dex 10, so I think its Initiative should be +4 not the +5 listed. Also, Perception is listed at +17 here and +32 in the Skills line. +32 might be the correct value but see below for more details on Skills.
Melee attack line... it looks like there's only a -1 penalty applied to this dragon's attack rolls instead of the -4 it should have from size. 25 (BAB) + 13 (Str) - 4 (size) = +34.
Psi-Like Abilities... this dragon is indicated as ML 17th with concentration +23 but I think it should be ML 25th with concentration +31. Also, id insinuation is a dread 2 power, so base DC with Cha 26 is DC20 with one target. Augmenting to ML 25th is 22 extra power points, so 11 augments. I think that should then be DC31 for a total of 12 targets not the 9 targets and DC26 listed. Also, mind control augmenting from a 4th level power (7 pp) to ML 25th is an extra 18 power points, or 9 extra targets for a total of 10. The DC listed is correct.
Skills... as far as I can tell, this dragon has 9 unspent skill ranks.
25 (ranks) + 7 (Wis) Autohypnosis +32
25 (ranks) + 3 (class) -6 (size) -8 (clumsy) Fly +14
25 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 8 (Cha) Intimidate +36
21 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 6 (Int) Knowledge (Arcana, Dungeoneering, Local, Nobility and Royalty, Planes, Psionics, Religion) +30 (+34 when identifying creatures)
22 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 7 (Wis) Perception +32
22 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 7 (Wis) Sense Motive +32
25 (ranks) + 3 (class) + power of darkness Stealth +28
=291 (should be 300)
Languages... I think this dragon should have two more languages.
I wanted to take an aside. I had previously only made it through the Scourge dragons in reading the psionic dragons release, before my free time diverted into other things, then proofreading. Now that I'm going through the Imagos, I wanted to say that these are kind of cool. There's a lot of effort that's clearly gone into making them thematic. Great job on that. Oneiromancy is truly clever. It'll take me a while to wrap my head around its implications, but dang... kudos for thinking that up.
Back to proofreading...
My process has become: copy and paste a statblock into Word, then highlight elements in green or red as I vet them. So, I'll highlight hit dice, then mark it green if it checks out. Anything I'm not sure of, I leave white until I work my way through things. It works well to weed out possible sources of bonuses and penalties and the like. Something only gets highlighted red once I'm sure (well, as sure as I can be) that I can't account for it.
This dragon is a wall of green, with only one tiny spot of white, and absolutely no red. For the record, it looks glorious.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Young Imagos Dragon
Special Attacks... as a Large dragon, I don't think this creature should have crush.
As an aside, I'd like to inform you that I'm shifting from the best of David Bowie to some random Queen while doing this. I offer this information purely as background so you can understand my mood. <Grin>
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Adult Imagos Dragon
HP line... see Feats area for question.
Melee attack line... this dragon appears to be missing his size penalty to melee attacks. BAB (16) plus Str (8) plus size (-2) = +22.
Melee bite +22 melee (2d8+12), 2 claws +22 melee (2d6+8), 2 wings +17 melee (1d8+4), tail slap +17 melee (2d6+12)
This dragon appears to be missing his size bonus to CMB. BAB (16) plus Str (8) plus size (2) = +26. CMD seems to be missing its Dex mod.
Base Atk +16; CMB +26; CMD 37
Feats... everything checks out here but there's an interesting implication that comes up that I need clarification on. I've never understood Metapsionic feats to count as psionic feats. In this case it matters for Psionic Body. The HP line of this dragon has 12 extra hit points (above and beyond Con * HD), but I only see three bona fide psionic feats. If the four metapsionic feats count as psionic feats, then the noted value is missing two hit points. If they don't, then the noted value is six too high (Endowed Mind doesn't seem to have been counted).
Skills line... everything checks out except I think Fly should be +12.
16 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 1 (Dex) -4 (Huge) -4 (poor) Fly +9
Ancient Imagos Dragon
HP line... as with the Adult Imagos dragon, metapsionic feats have been used as psionic feats. I count four psionc feats, and seven metapsionic feats. So, with Con 26 (x24=192), this should be 24d12+200 if metapsionic don't count, or 24d12+214 if they do. I think.
Skills line... let me express this a little different from usual for brevity. An Int 20 (+5) dragon can max out 11 skills. As I calculate it, this dragon can max out one more skill. Also, the Int-based skills are accidentally calculated ten lower than they should be. So... increase the Knowledge and Spellcraft scores to +32 and pick one more skill to max out.
24 (ranks) + 4 (Wis) Autohypnosis +28
24 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 8 (Cha) Diplomacy +35
24 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 0 (Dex) -6 (size) -8 (clumsy) Fly +13
14 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 5 (Int) Knowledge (Local, Planes, Psionics) +22
24 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 8 (Cha) Intimidate +35
24 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 4 (Wis) Perception +31
14 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 5 (Int) Spellcraft +22
24 (ranks) + 3 (class) + 8 (Cha) Use Magic Device +35
Last one for the night. I will wrap up the last two on Sunday as well as the Ksarite dragons if they're ready.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Young Keris Dragon
AC line... a base Keris dragon has a natural armor bonus of +4 and the young advancement is +6. AC and flat-footed are three too low as noted, because the natural armor bonus noted is +7 not +10.
AC 21, touch 11, flat-footed 19
Speed line... a Large dragon has (poor) maneuverability, not (clumsy).
Special Attacks line... this young dragon should not have crush as it is merely Large.
This dragon appears to be missing his Dex modifier to CMD. BAB (9) plus Str (5) plus size (1) plus 10 plus Dex (2) = 27.
Base Atk +9; CMB +15; CMD 27
Feats line... this dragon has Psicrystal Affinity but I don't see a bonus from a personality anywhere. I would suggest a parenthetical note that the GM should pick an appropriate personality of their choice.
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Adult Keris Dragon
AC line... a base Keris dragon has a natural armor bonus of +4 and the adult advancement is +15. AC and flat-footed are three too low as noted, because the natural armor bonus noted is +16 not +19.
AC 28, touch 9, flat-footed 27
Manifesting line... a 5th-level psion gets 25 pp and Int 22 grants 15 bonus pp for a total of 40, not the 37 shown.
Psi-Like Abilities... I feel I'm missing something here, likely a detail in the Keris dragon's abilities itself but I can't match the DC for energy burst. 3rd-level power, manifesting out of Cha (18) is a base DC of 17 with 5pp spent. Augmenting by 10 pp to ML 15th is an extra 5 on the DC, for 22. I'm not sure where the other 2 is coming from.
CMD appears to be missing the Dex bonus. BAB (15) plus Str (8) plus size (2) plus 10 plus Dex (1), for 36.
Base Atk +15; CMB +25; CMD +36
SamplePsionicDragons.pdf
Ancient Keris Dragon
AC line... a base Keris dragon has a natural armor bonus of +4 and the ancient advancement is +27. AC and flat-footed are three too low as noted, because the natural armor bonus noted is +31 not +28.
AC 37, touch 6, flat-footed 37
HP line... 23 hit dice with Con 26 grants 184 bonus hit points.
Melee line... probably just a typo but the tail slap attack shoud also be at +26, not the +16 listed.
Special Abilities... energy torrent is listed as having DC 28 yet the feature in the psionc dragons document says that ancient keris dragons get DC 27.
Powers Known... this dragon appears to know one too many 6th and 7th level power. The progression of powers known slows down after 5th level powers.
Psi-Like abilities... energy burst with Cha 22 is a base DC of 19. Augmenting to ML 23 is an extra 18 pp, for a DC increase of 9. I think the resulting DC should be 28.
Languages... this dragon appears to be missing one known language.
Y'know... a dragon with natural parasites/symbiotes might make for an interesting tacticial-based race...