Huge Items?


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My Titan Mauler Barbarian is soon to be level 14. As of level 12, her penalty for wielding oversized weapons is reduced by 4. Due to the weapon sizing rules, this is useless in all but two cases, as far as I can tell: a Huge Sun Blade and a Huge Aklys.

In the Always Available Items, the Guide includes the following:

Quote:
All basic armor, gear, items, and weapons from Chapter 6 of the Core Rulebook, including Small and Large-sized items.

Beyond that, I can't find any mention of inappropriately sized weapons.

So my question is:
Can a PFS character buy items, mundane or magical, other than Small, Medium or Large as long as it is within their Fame limit?

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

You couldn't buy a Huge-sized Sun Blade because no such thing exists in print. It's considered a "specific magic item".

A Huge-sized Aklys wouldn't be a problem, so long as you could find a price for one, but as far as I've seen there are no prices listed anywhere for Huge-sized weapons.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

FWIW, James Jacobs addressed this about 4 years ago:

James Jacobs wrote:
Costs for weapons beyond the sizes PCs normally interact with weren't important enough to get wedged into the rulebook. You could certainly extrapolate the costs based on the differences between Small, Medium, and Large weapons, though. It's not something we've put a lot of thought into yet though.

4/5

Got it. No printed rules for Huge weapons means no Huge weapons in PFS. I'd forgotten that there were pricing rules for armor outside S/M/L but not weapons.

Does that mean a Large Sun Blade is still an option, adding 70gp for the price for the doubled cost of the Bastard Sword?

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

I don't think so, for the same reason you can't purchase an Adamantine Shatterspike. It's a specific magic item, and you can't "upgrade" it or make it out of another material.

It needs to exist in print. Small- and Medium-sized Sun Blades don't cost any different, so both a Halfling and a Human can purchase one in the appropriate size, but when it comes to a Tiny- or Large-sized Sun Blade I think you're out of luck.

Dark Archive 5/5

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The guide says two things:

1) small, medium, and large items are always available.
2) *All* mundane items are purchasable.

By this, it just means you can only get small, medium, and large items without pulling some strings or having some influence...aka, fame. Think about it this way: If a level 14 adventurer has the contacts to get access to a scroll of limited wish, they can probably get someone to make a normally stupidly big sword.

Second, there are rules for larger weapons: straight from the core rule book. You double the base price for every size category. So a huge weapon would cost 4x the base price of a medium, 8x for gargantuan, 16x for collosal.

Where your Titan mauler will fall into trouble is the limitation that you can't wield a weapon that is too big for you; even with the negation of a penalty, a medium creature cannot wield a 2h weapon made for a large person, let alone a huge one.

(Note: if you were large, say, per enlarge person, and used two hands to wield a huge one handed weapon, that's legal...just set down the weapon before growing big!)

3/5

So if my Summoner has a huge eidolon, no huge weapons?

4/5

Glav wrote:
Second, there are rules for larger weapons: straight from the core rule book. You double the base price for every size category. So a huge weapon would cost 4x the base price of a medium, 8x for gargantuan, 16x for collosal.

The only rules I can find for cost in relation to weapon size are these:

Equipment wrote:

Cost: This value is the weapon's cost in gold pieces (gp) or silver pieces (sp). The cost includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver.

This cost is the same for a Small or Medium version of the weapon. A Large version costs twice the listed price.

Glav wrote:

Where your Titan mauler will fall into trouble is the limitation that you can't wield a weapon that is too big for you; even with the negation of a penalty, a medium creature cannot wield a 2h weapon made for a large person, let alone a huge one.

(Note: if you were large, say, per enlarge person, and used two hands to wield a huge one handed weapon, that's legal...just set down the weapon before growing big!)

I understand this, but the Sun Blade and Aklys are both light weapons, which means they should size up to 1-handed for Large and 2-handed for Huge.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Glav wrote:
there are rules for larger weapons: straight from the core rule book. You double the base price for every size category. So a huge weapon would cost 4x the base price of a medium, 8x for gargantuan, 16x for collosal.

Did they add rules for pricing Huge-sized weapons in the 6th printing? Mine's only the 5th edition.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Nefreet wrote:
Glav wrote:
there are rules for larger weapons: straight from the core rule book. You double the base price for every size category. So a huge weapon would cost 4x the base price of a medium, 8x for gargantuan, 16x for collosal.
Did they add rules for pricing Huge-sized weapons in the 6th printing? Mine's only the 5th edition.

No, he's extrapolating from a single data point (and ignoring the fact that there's no price jump from small to medium).

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Gotcha.

This would be easy to come up with in a home game, but "approximating" is not something that's allowed in PFS.

A mundane, masterwork, or +1 Aklys is available in sizes small, medium, and large.

But that's it.

3/5

of course the other problem is, the titan mauler can't wield a huge sized weapon, unless it's a dagger.

Inappropriately-sized weapons in the PRD wrote:


The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all.
Jotungrip wrote:


At 3rd level, a titan mauler becomes skilled in the use of massive weapons looted from her titanic foes. The attack roll penalty for using weapons too large for her size is reduced by 1, and this reduction increases by 1 for every three levels beyond 3rd (to a minimum of 0). This ability replaces trap sense.

now, as a Titan Mauler, when you hit 14th level, you gain the benefits of enlarge person while raging. Enlarge person makes your equipment grow with you, so you wouldn't actually need a huge sized weapon, cause you're (presumably) current large sized weapon would become one.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

This was already covered up thread. A Huge-sized Aklys or Sun Blade counts as a two-handed weapon. Anyone can wield one (the Titan Mauler simply lowers, and eventually ignores, the penalty when doing so).

3/5

true. I was mainly just citing sources and pointing out that titan maulers don't necessarily need a huge-sized weapon with enlarge person.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Indeed. He could even carry around a Gargantuan-sized Aklys at that point.

If there was only a price for one.

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