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I'm playing a human paladin in PFS. Just hit level 3, I've got 12 fame, 10 PP and about 5K available. (I haven't bought full plate or magic weapons yet.) I fight with a falchion.
My problem is my speed of 20 is proving to be just a bit too slow. Those damn goblins keep running out of reach.
I've considered blowing money on mithril medium armor, but I fear I may need heavy armor for the AC. Boots of Striding and Springing appear to be quite expensive.
Does anyone have good ideas on how I can improve my speed somewhat? 30 speed in armor would be marvelous.
You could take a dip into cleric and get the Travel domain. Even if it's not offered by your deity, you can use the separatist archetype to pick it up.
Either the cleric dip RainyDayNinja suggested or a 3 level dip in Monk of some sort.
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The monk dip seems like a waste for him, but since boots of striding and springing are out...I think the cleric dip is probably the only way to do it quickly and "cheaply".
Maybe you could start using a reach weapon to cancel out their movement. Plus you get zone enforcement? Can't hurt to have a back-up weapon for those situation, and is cheaper than anything else.
Either the cleric dip RainyDayNinja suggested or a 3 level dip in Monk of some sort.
Monk fast movement won't work with Armor on. And it's an Enhancement bonus for some unfathomable reason, so it won't stack with Haste or boots. Barbarian Fast Movement is untyped. But you can't ask the DM to waive the alignment restriction, because it's PFS.
I think the only real solution is a magic item or Mithral medium armor. Or, as they said, the Cleric dip.
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Carry a Wand of Expeditious Retreat and make friends with every Bard, Sorcerer, Wizard, Alchemist and Summoner you come across
I wouldn't waste class levels on something that can be fixed with gold. According to item creation rules you could have a pair of boots of longstriding made up for a measly 2000g. Constant effect, spell level times caster level times 2000g. The modifier for one hour per level duration spells isn't listed but should be no modifier if you look at where it lands between the two. If a druid in your group has craft wondrous item great you pick them up for 1000 gold and two days work. One if her spell craft is high enough to do it safely as a rush job.
According to item creation rules you could have a
PFS, though in your defense this should be in the PFS forum
Oh sorry, missed that. I haven't done any pfs yet. Didn't know you couldn't make your own items
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Ride a horse?
I believe potions of expeditious retreat exist - one-time use things, of course, but they're reasonably priced.
They don't, actually. It's a "personal" spell, so can't be made into a potion.
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Paladin of Saranrae? 1 level of Flame Oracle with Cinder Dance?
I'll check that out, my patron is indeed Sarenrae. I was previously considering dipping into Oracle of Battle for the Surprising Charge, but by now I'm sure that what I need is a constant speed increase. I'm not really looking forward to the Curse though.
By the way, Potions of Longstrider are theoretically legal, aren't they?
Longstrider is a Personal spell.
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Paladin of Saranrae? 1 level of Flame Oracle with Cinder Dance?I'll check that out, my patron is indeed Sarenrae. I was previously considering dipping into Oracle of Battle for the Surprising Charge, but by now I'm sure that what I need is a constant speed increase. I'm not really looking forward to the Curse though.
If you have the book (Blood of Fiends), Legalistic is a pretty low-impact curse, and not race-restricted. Especially for a Paladin, since it involves penalties for breaking your word.
Alternately, from the normal list, Tongues isn't bad at all. Yeah,you start only being able to speak Celestial (or whatever) while fighting, but hand gestures still work, and you can understand people fine.
Having a horse is generally the route to go for these kinds of problems. Also why teiflings make the best paladins(asside from the Favored Class Bonus). they add 10 to their base movement for charging/runing/withdrawing. If you dont want to buy a mount or you arnt a race with a movement racial trait that you can retrain then I would go a spring-loaded wrist sheath, put some points into UMD, and pay 50-200-750g to cast a movement increasing spell from a scroll or wand.
Yeah,you start only being able to speak Celestial (or whatever) while fighting, but hand gestures still work, and you can understand people fine.
Actually, you only understand your curse language also. And you might run into table variation on hand signals, as some might consider that sign language.
But something like Celestial is not uncommon among PCs, so you might have a couple of teammates you can still communicate with.
I'm not fond of Tongues because I try play a Diplomacy-or-the-hard-way paladin.
The curse shouldn't kick in until someone has already declined the easy way. Although that could just as easily be your barbarian ally...
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I'm not fond of Tongues because I try play a Diplomacy-or-the-hard-way paladin.The curse shouldn't kick in until someone has already declined the easy way. Although that could just as easily be your barbarian ally...
Hmm. It's inconvenient when telling people to surrender, or coordinating with the teammates of the day.
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Sacred Servant paladin archetype, Abadar as patron, Travel domain gives +10-feet speed. Also gives Perception as class skill via a trait.
The reason I know this is because I needed to replace a fallen PC in Kingmaker, and I didn't want to have a speed of 20-feet in a campaign where there's a lot of difficult terrain, slowing me to a crawl.
In the end I didn't want to worship Abadar because of his alignment (LN), his portfolio (cities) and his dogma (slavery is okay), and since this was the cousin of my first PC and the family patron had been established to be Shelyn I chose her as my patron (NG, beauty and art).
I solved my movement problems by wearing a mithral breastplate (light armour) and having a good Dex, which also came in handy for the TWF line of feats, which is definitely sub-optimal but is still very cool.
So, mithral breastplate: cost 4,200gp, light armour, armour bonus +6, max Dex +5, ACP -1 (there's a trait for that), weight 15 lbs.
Compared to mithral full plate (cost 10,500gp) it's 3 lower armour but 2 better max Dex, and +10-feet speed.
Compared to steel full plate (1,650 MW) it's 4 better max Dex.
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I've only got a +1 Dex modifier, so preserving that isn't really a priority. And I'm resigned to having so many Armor Penalties to skills that I just wrote off those skills.
I like the Oracle->Cinder Dance thing. It's okay with Sarenrae. But I really don't like any of the curses; none of them really fit my character.
Likewise, hellknight would be a terrible RP choice. It's really not compatible with worshiping Sarenrae.
I'm thinking the boots may be the best solution, but I can't afford them yet. Something to save up for though.
Mithral Full Plate and a 3 level fighter dip for armor training can get you to full speed. You aren't slowed in medium armor and your armor counts as medium, so hooray!
Though with some talk of the Oracle of Flames dip, I might suggest an Elemental Sorcerer dip instead? More spell diversity and you get a +30 land speed as opposed to +10.
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Step 1. Get a Vibrant Purple Prism (Cracked) Ioun Stone for 2,000 gp.
Step 2. Get a wand of Longstrider or Expeditious Retreat for 750 gp.
Step 3. Get 1 rank of UMD, or get somebody else to use the wand.
Step 4. Profit.
Alternative dips -
2 levels in Ninja. Cha synergizes well and with the Ki pool you can increase your movement speed by 20' on demand or get an extra attack. Other benefits include 1d6 sneak attack and a ninja trick or combat feat of your choice.
3 levels of fighter + Mithril Full Plate, plain or any archetype that doesn't remove armor training. Other benefits include a couple more feats, no BAB loss, possibly additional AC depending on your current dex. Downside is Mithril Full Plate is pretty expensive and three levels is kind of a lot.
I might suggest an Elemental Sorcerer dip instead? More spell diversity and you get a +30 land speed as opposed to +10.
Don't do this. All it would take is a 15 level dip :)
Doh! Totally misread that bloodline! Guess that's what I get for skimming.
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Mithral Full plate + Wand of Longstrider. Anyone with UMD or a ranger/druid can cast it on you. Later Haste will come in and you will be doing fine.
Same problem as a potion of longstrider...it's a personal range spell so you have to UMD the wand yourself.
Step 1. Get a Vibrant Purple Prism (Cracked) Ioun Stone for 2,000 gp.
Step 2. Get a wand of Longstrider or Expeditious Retreat for 750 gp.
Step 3. Get 1 rank of UMD, or get somebody else to use the wand.
Step 4. Profit.
I don't want to turn this into another thread on that topic, but there's a large number of arguments against this being possible. Particularly the "using a wand" part. Search for one of those threads before you decide to do this, your PFS GM is likely to disallow it.
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If you have a 13 int, get Unsanctioned Knowledge and put Expeditious Retreat onto your spell list.
This is actually my favorite solution (if you have the int) although I would suggest longstrider instead due to the much longer duration. In a couple of levels you are likely to have it up most of the time (thanks, pearl of power and lesser extend rod!) and not need to spend a valuable action while you are in combat.
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Given the amount of indoor fights (in annoying 5ft-corridor dungeons) I don't think a horse is the solution.
Technically, a horse takes up only two squares so it can happily prance through five foot corridors. It is also only 5-6 feet tall, so even doorways aren't ACTUALLY a problem. The main challenge though is that the "does your horse fit" discussion has to happen with each GM.
Even in a worst case scenario where your GM rules the horse is squeezing, it still moves faster than you and can double move while giving you a standard action.
Incorrect, all large size creatures take up four squares now.
Back in 3.5 there was a long size that was 2x1 as you described but that has long been removed.
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Consider quickrunners shirt, essentially 3/times a day trade a swift action for a move action to move. 1k gold. Pretty cheap, and pretty darn effective (use it to move in and still be able to full attack O.o)Not a PFS legal item.
Also, it's only a once per day item.
My bad, one of my homebrew characters had three. Didn't realize it wasn't PFS legal though, Hmm...